like it's reasonable to say that if I write a book that I should be able to get money for people reading it

unless buying used media is sinful

it's not

Ultimately, I could go to a library and "legally" get a copy of almost anything

Yes

That is perfectly okay

Piracy is just skipping the middle man, nobody loses anything, not even profit

That's just false

only exception is maybe games and that's a stretch

Either way the sin is in the selfishness

Mainly

But I don't pirate games anyways

It shows a severe lack of virtue

Paying for physical media is a convenience fee

What are you even saying

you should pay for every type of media because you are paying the creators

You can't steal something if you haven't taken anything from anyone

You did take something though

Did I take something from someone by copying my friend's music?

I assume there's a price to buy whatever it is through legitimate means, correct?

then you are defrauding the creator of that money

regardless of whether they're rich as hell or whether it's fair or whether they care, they still deserve it

Unless it's a sin to copy music from your friends, it's not a sin to copy music from strangers

Did your friends make the music?

Does it matter?

Because unless they did, it is a sin then

So going to your friends house and ripping their CDs is a sin

Yes

Ofc

Even though they still have their CD

The artist still has all the money they were going to make

The friend still has their copy

Not from you

Why do you deserve that music anyways, is the real question

I would not have bought it in the first place

You don't have a right to it

It's not a question of deserving. It's there, it's free, and I didn't take anything from anyone else

is listening to music on youtube a sin?

If you're doing it to avoid paying for it, and they obtained it illegally, yes

there is a ton of pirated stuff on youtube

How do you know?