Copyright protects the production of physical goods, it's not an enforceable concept in a world where infinite copies of everything can be made at no cost or charge. It's wrong to profit off work that is not yours, or claim it, but to distribute it free to your peers is how it's always been, just more local before the internet.

so you're saying we don't have to obey it because it's unenforceable

this is you right now <:clownpepe:550674767351644180> like dude they have a right to get paid for stuff they made, and again, it's the law and if anything you should just obey it because it's the law

If the law says "water is illegal" do you follow it?

we have to obey the law unless breaks the moral law

So no more water?

that would break the moral law

What is moral about water?

it's needed for life

But only water is illegal. We can pipe corn syrup through your pipes and you'll survive just fine

Still no water?

what does that have to do with this again?

why do you feel the need to defend theft so much?

If the law makes something illegal that is indistinguishable from someone doing a legal thing, it's not a law it's a joke

I see what you're saying

But how is copying digital material and using it a legal thing

Because I don't understand people who think it's theft when it bears no resemblance in anything but what record companies have desperately tried to promote to stay relevant far past their due date

You do not have a right to listen to music

People patronize artists, it's not about taking profit. Artists put art out to be listened to, and if someone thinks it's worth paying for they pay for it. Otherwise they never see a dime. If people did not pirate music, nobody would listen to anything that wasn't on the radio. Piracy is no different than streaming with adblock, beyond the fact that it lends backwards compatibility to periphery devices

Are you talking about like radio stations?

The default should be "im not entitled to this" and then you find evidence that you are allowed to have it.

Not start with "I want this and now I need to justify not taking it"

like what are the things people want to pirate

movies

music

programs

books

there's no reason why you deserve these things

And like 97% of countries recognize intellectual property

so if you are using their property, why would you be entitled to use it?

well, it's because they either said you could, or you paid for it

for the example of your friends music you of course can listen to it with your friend, and your friend can lend it to you

but when your friend lends it to you, then he's not using it anymore

this is how libraries work

they pay for each digital license

and if they don't have enough licenses someone has to wait

and radio stations pay to use it

Just because everyone does it doesn't mean that it's okay, and just because it's super easy, that also doesn't mean that it's okay

and with that example of water, water is something you are entitled to, you need it to live (and any such law would obviously be a sin to pass or make) so of course it's okay to still drink water

The only time when we are allowed to break the law is when it breaks the moral law

eg civil rights stuff

Again