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2019-05-10 01:36:23 UTC  

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2019-05-10 01:38:05 UTC  

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2019-05-10 01:39:30 UTC  

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2019-05-10 01:40:45 UTC  

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2019-05-10 01:40:56 UTC  

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***R A P E***

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2019-05-13 01:21:31 UTC  

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2019-05-13 01:23:13 UTC  

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2019-05-13 01:25:46 UTC  

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2019-05-13 01:38:50 UTC  

Peter explained what happens at baptism when he said, “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38). But he did not restrict this teaching to adults. He added, “For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him” (2:39, emphasis added). We also read: “Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name” (Acts 22:16). These commands are universal, not restricted to adults. Further, these commands make clear the necessary connection between baptism and salvation, a connection explicitly stated in 1 Peter 3:21: “Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.”

2019-05-13 01:38:51 UTC  

**Acts 2:38 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<38> Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins may be forgiven; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. ```

2019-05-13 01:38:51 UTC  

**Acts 22:16 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<16> And now why do you delay? Get up, be baptized, and have your sins washed away, calling on his name.'```

2019-05-13 01:38:51 UTC  

**1 Peter 3:21 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<21> And baptism, which this prefigured, now saves you—not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, ```

2019-05-13 01:39:43 UTC  

Christ Calls All to Baptism
Opposition to infant baptism is not a new phenomenon. In the Middle Ages, some groups developed that rejected infant baptism, e.g., the Waldenses and Catharists. Later, the Anabaptists (“re-baptizers”) echoed them, claiming that infants are incapable of being baptized validly. But the historic Christian Church has always held that Christ’s law applies to infants as well as adults, for Jesus said that no one can enter heaven unless he has been born again of water and the Holy Spirit (John 3:5). His words can be taken to apply to anyone capable of belonging to his kingdom. He asserted such even for children: “Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven” (Matt. 19:14).

2019-05-13 01:39:45 UTC  

**John 3:5 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<5> Jesus answered, "Very truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit. ```

2019-05-13 01:40:19 UTC  

This is why we baptize babies.

2019-05-13 01:40:48 UTC  

We also baptize infants that have died, because original sin prevents entry into heaven without it

2019-05-13 01:40:53 UTC  

Dumbass prots

2019-05-13 01:41:47 UTC  

Now, Fundamentalists say this event does not apply to young children or infants since it implies the children to which Christ was referring were able to approach him on their own. (Older translations have, “Suffer the little children to come unto me,” which seems to suggest they could do so under their own power.) Fundamentalists conclude the passage refers only to children old enough to walk, and, presumably, capable of sinning. But the text in Luke 18:15 says, “Now they were bringing even infants to him” (Greek, Prosepheron de auto kai ta brepha). The Greek word brepha means “infants”—children who are quite unable to approach Christ on their own and who could not possibly make a conscious decision to “accept Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior.” And that is precisely the problem. Fundamentalists refuse to permit the baptism of infants and young children, because they are not yet capable of making such a conscious act. But notice what Jesus said: “to such as these [referring to the infants and children who had been brought to him by their mothers] belongs the kingdom of heaven.” The Lord did not require them to make a conscious decision. He says that they are precisely the kind of people who can come to him and receive the kingdom.

2019-05-13 01:41:51 UTC  

**Luke 18:15 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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Jesus Blesses Little Children

<15> People were bringing even infants to him that he might touch them; and when the disciples saw it, they sternly ordered them not to do it. ```

2019-05-13 01:41:52 UTC  

If you die it's over. There is no remission of sins after death.

2019-05-13 01:43:44 UTC  

But one might ask, does the Bible ever say that infants or young children can be baptized? The indications are clear. In the New Testament we read that Lydia was converted by Paul’s preaching and that “She was baptized, with her household” (Acts 16:15). The Philippian jailer whom Paul and Silas had converted to the faith was baptized that night along with his household. We are told that “the same hour of the night . . . he was baptized, with all his family” (Acts 16:33). And in his greetings to the Corinthians, Paul recalled that, “I did baptize also the household of Stephanas” (1 Cor. 1:16).

In all these cases, whole households or families were baptized. This means more than just the spouse; the children too were included. If the text of Acts referred simply to the Philippian jailer and his wife, then we would read that “he and his wife were baptized,” but we do not. Thus his children must have been baptized as well. The same applies to the other cases of household baptism in Scripture.

Granted, we do not know the exact age of the children; they may have been past the age of reason, rather than infants. Then again, they could have been babes in arms. More probably, there were both younger and older children. Certainly there were children younger than the age of reason in some of the households that were baptized. Furthermore, given the New Testament pattern of household baptism, if there were to be exceptions to this rule (such as infants), they would be explicit.