Message from @Helter Seltzer ☧

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2019-11-18 23:43:29 UTC  

yea seems like a blanket statement

2019-11-18 23:43:53 UTC  

To take hallucinogenics is to tamper with your God-given reason, which would be sinful.

2019-11-18 23:44:10 UTC  

Don't do drugs, my niggas in Christ.

2019-11-18 23:44:43 UTC  

Perhaps, Alcohol can deviate from your reason but that's only sinful in excess

2019-11-18 23:47:30 UTC  

What has Francis said about pot?

2019-11-18 23:47:39 UTC  

Or the Church in general?

2019-11-18 23:48:34 UTC  

Fr. Ripperger has also said that moderate alcohol consumption can bring graces, or something of the sort. Maybe he said that drinking, but not getting drunk, while in a state of grace can be good. Not sure what he meant as grace can only come from God, right?

2019-11-18 23:49:29 UTC  

ill get a timestamp

2019-11-18 23:52:29 UTC  

1:20-3:00

2019-11-18 23:53:09 UTC  

Father ripperger is mostly correct in this. Alcohol is mercurial. It allows one to step outside oneself to get a clearer perspective

2019-11-18 23:53:49 UTC  

There are many substances which can do something similar however many of them all so bear with them addiction which both limits their usefulness and forces sin upon the user

2019-11-18 23:54:36 UTC  

indeed

2019-11-18 23:56:23 UTC  

the major problem of course is that the average layman cannot discern any of that for himself therefore it should just be banned as a blanket rule. dickey people who are not in the know or not studying these things from dabbling in something they shouldn't

2019-11-19 00:01:09 UTC  

Maybe, but psychedelics aren't de facto banned right now and I don't really know any other catholics that have done it, also I don't think anybody would have an interest in using them unless they thoroughly researched them, and was fairly familiar with the supernatural. It's not something a person with good judgment or prudence would just jump into.

2019-11-19 00:01:39 UTC  

....have you met potheads? Lol

2019-11-19 00:02:14 UTC  

Yea, but they tend to be pretty deluded when it comes to theology or the supernatural in general

2019-11-19 00:02:24 UTC  

Potheads are stupid. How can someone fall addicted to that shyet?

2019-11-19 00:02:35 UTC  

I wouldn't put potheads in the same category

2019-11-19 00:03:59 UTC  

I can understand if someone uses it once a while but most of the time? Doesn't that dumb you down?

2019-11-19 00:04:22 UTC  

consistent use blocks ur dreaming

2019-11-19 00:04:24 UTC  

so no thanks

2019-11-19 00:04:50 UTC  

Constant use doesn't block dreaming but does slow your thinking.

2019-11-19 00:06:18 UTC  

Tell you what though. Hitting a piece of information you can't understand for like two days, then smoking and retrying to learn it can help. At least with scripture and spiritual things. But I'd never recommend that

2019-11-19 00:07:43 UTC  

bruh

2019-11-19 00:55:14 UTC  

I've always wanted to try marijuana just for the experience, but I've seen how it makes people retarded.

2019-11-19 00:55:41 UTC  

You're not going to turn retarded after 1 cone

2019-11-19 00:55:51 UTC  

Well you will temporarily but that's the point

2019-11-19 00:55:57 UTC  

I dunno.

2019-11-19 00:56:26 UTC  

My dad's a pothead so.

2019-11-19 00:56:38 UTC  

I just have an aversion

2019-11-19 00:56:47 UTC  

Yeah well we all do

2019-11-19 00:56:54 UTC  

It's the devil's lettuce smh

2019-11-19 00:57:30 UTC  

I prefer moderate drinking anyhow.

2019-11-19 01:12:48 UTC  

If you have family issues with addiction pls don't do pot. If you're doing it for the experience only. Please don't do pot

2019-11-19 01:13:02 UTC  

Use it to boost understanding or prayer only imo

2019-11-19 01:13:04 UTC  

I used to be a pothead

2019-11-19 01:13:28 UTC  

Then you know it's mostly retarded as is pot culture

2019-11-19 01:13:53 UTC  

Now I'm just an alcoholic <:eksdee:558283291292336138>

2019-11-19 01:14:03 UTC  

Actual rastafarianism is pretty based but you know college fags aren't into actual worship

2019-11-19 01:14:16 UTC  

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