Message from @Romanus Drevo
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I wonder if we are in a place right now with no good options
like the Soviet Union twoards the end of it's life
my dad remembers the 1991 coup attempt. He thought the reformists like Gorbachev and Yeltsin were criminals destroying the country, but he didn't want a return to the failed policies of the Brezhnev era either, that the coup leaders were offering
what choice was there? Either path was a path to darkness
I will never trust secular countries. They usually water down the value of religion towards the society. They want its influenced removed
What does the British government have to gain by kowtowing to Muslims? đŸ¤”
I don't understand it.
virtuepoints
No such thing to these people, they'll turn on you in seconds.
It's not like they're likely to win outright, anyway.
They know that the only way to stay in power is to support what the majority seem to support
And as the general public opinion is that Muslims are peaceful, the government will parrot this
Hard to trace back when it begun
Secularism is good when you live in a country like Pakistan
Because everyone's terrified of being anything other than Muslim?
Secularism is evil
Secularism is evil only for Christian countries lol
Good for others, specially Muslim countries
How does that follow?
No, it isn't
Have you tried?
Yeah
tried converting few close friends irl
Extremism wasn't really strong here before 2001 though
Are you in a Muslim country?
People of Pakistan were religious before but they had this uhh
tolerant version of Islam or whatever you wanna call it
I live in Pakistan
Ah.
Now society is degenerate like West here lole
though before we had nightclubs and stuff like that here, society wasn't this degenerate
That's what happens when you open yourselves to modernism.
But we needed secularism after 2001 tbh
that tolerant version of Islam was fading
extremism was getting strong
So at least now Pakistani Muslims aren't killing anyone?
Situation wasn't really bad here ever
unlike the Middle East
Now there is another extremist movement here, they haven't attacked Christians yet only Islamic heretics like