But we have to remember to actually follow through on our dreams

I want to serve God

everything else doesnt really matter, though if I have a say in it, I'd like to go back to school and become an engineer

that'd be nice I think

Ah this reminds me, here in huezil we had a glimpse of what it can become

I was thinking more Russia in the 1990s

Your heard about the truckers strike we having?

when the birth rate plumetted

and everything else just imploded

and the economy collapse in a depression worse than the Great Depression of the 1930s

Dang, guess we just have to wait and see

Yup

Glory to God in all things

"In early 1992, prices skyrocketed throughout Russia, and a deep credit crunch shut down many industries and brought about a protracted depression. The reforms devastated the living standards of much of the population, especially the groups dependent on Soviet-era state subsidies and welfare entitlement programs.[33] Through the 1990s, Russia's GDP fell by 50 percent, vast sectors of the economy were wiped out, inequality and unemployment grew dramatically, while incomes fell. Hyperinflation, caused by the Central Bank of Russia's loose monetary policy, wiped out many people's personal savings, and tens of millions of Russians were plunged into poverty"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Yeltsin#Yeltsin's_first_term

"Following the economic collapse of the early 1990s, Russia suffered from a sharp increase in the rates of poverty and economic inequality.[9] Estimates by the World Bank based on both macroeconomic data and surveys of household incomes and expenditures indicate that whereas 1.5% of the population was living in poverty (defined as income below the equivalent of $25 per month) in the late Soviet era, by mid-1993 between 39% and 49% of the population was living in poverty.[10] Per capita incomes fell by another 15% by 1998, according to government figures.

Public health indicators show a dramatic corresponding decline. Although all post-Soviet countries experience an immediate decline in birth-rates due to economic turmoil this may have been particularly acute in Russia.[11] In 1999, total population fell by about three-quarters of a million people. Meanwhile, life expectancy dropped for men from 64 years in 1990 to 57 years by 1994, while women's dropped from 74 to about 71. Both health factors and a sharp increase in deaths of the youth demographic from unnatural causes (such as murders, suicides, and accidents) have significantly contributed to this trend. Closely related to the declining life expectancy, alcohol-related deaths skyrocketed 60% in the 1990s and deaths from infectious and parasitic diseases shot up 100%[citation needed], mainly because medicines were no longer affordable to the poor."

This is the future I think the west is headed for, and worse

especially America

Then you had the violent wars in Chechnya, terrorism, and the country nearly went into civil war in 1993

We never expect it, do we? We take these things for granted, but honestly, nothing is.

I wonder if we are in a place right now with no good options

like the Soviet Union twoards the end of it's life

my dad remembers the 1991 coup attempt. He thought the reformists like Gorbachev and Yeltsin were criminals destroying the country, but he didn't want a return to the failed policies of the Brezhnev era either, that the coup leaders were offering

what choice was there? Either path was a path to darkness

I will never trust secular countries. They usually water down the value of religion towards the society. They want its influenced removed

What does the British government have to gain by kowtowing to Muslims? 🤔

I don't understand it.

virtuepoints

No such thing to these people, they'll turn on you in seconds.

It's not like they're likely to win outright, anyway.

They know that the only way to stay in power is to support what the majority seem to support

And as the general public opinion is that Muslims are peaceful, the government will parrot this

Hard to trace back when it begun

Secularism is good when you live in a country like Pakistan

Because everyone's terrified of being anything other than Muslim?

Secularism is evil

@Mihai Full circle mate!

Secularism is evil only for Christian countries lol

Good for others, specially Muslim countries

How does that follow?

I think it might be easier to convert Muslims to Catholicism than secularists.