Message from @Mozalbete ⳩
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So everything the Catholic Church has done, is doing and will do is entirely righteous because of that scripture?
The Church is infallible because of that scripture?
Everything the Catholic Church dogmatically declares, has declared and will declare is true because Christ created the Church and said the Gates of Hell would not prevail. And those things happened before anyone wrote about them, and before such scriptures were declared canocical
Are people who aren't apostles heretics and unable to do miracles and preach the gospel?
People who go against the dogmatically declared statements of the Church are heretics. That is precisely what DEFINES heresy: what goes against the magysterium
Now, with miracles I do not concern myself, and what they preach is what they preach, which may be correct or wrong
A heretic is someone who goes outside church dogma?
Precisely
Are they a believer?
A believer in what?
In the Gospel and in Christ
In what things?
Because one can believe in some things that are right, and then in many that are wrong
And the things that are wrong canhave terrible implications
Are people who work miracles and preach the gospel in Christ's name be heretics?
I can repeat every single verse in the Bible and then say that Christ was a travestite
In that case, am I preaching the gospel?
Because surely a house divided will fall and the church cannot fall but people who do miracles in the name of Christ are for Christ.
Or not
No, again please don't be facetious
"Do not stop him," Jesus said. "For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, for whoever is not against us is for us."
Who is us
Christ also said this
So you can't do a miracle and then call Christ a transvestite because of the scripture you quote.
I do not concern myself with that, as I already said. I do not understand why you want to talk so much about miracles. Maybe you want to brag about how your favorite heretic has some alleged miracle and thus can't be wrong
No.
I'm trying to understand a Catholic's understanding and interpretation of the faith
Then you should read the Catechism?
Ok.
I have to leave though. Going to play some Rayman
Ok.
Was nice talking to you.
Thank you for the insights.
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@Edrodian881 how did the catechism come about? And how is it declared accurate?
The cathechism istself is not authoritative
but it is a compilation that SHOULD have quotes
It is, overall, a good resource
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Rip tsar nicolas II