Message from @Mozalbete ⳩

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2018-07-31 22:09:59 UTC  

>Your race is merely an accident of birth.
By that logic what else is just an accident

2018-07-31 22:10:03 UTC  

That is what the inferiority refers to

2018-07-31 22:10:25 UTC  

I accept that my race may be inferior to others, maybe

2018-07-31 22:10:53 UTC  

Yes, they exist. But they are not entirely due to which race they are. If two people of two different races are brought up in the same circumstances, they will be highly similar.

2018-07-31 22:11:11 UTC  

Who created those circumstances

2018-07-31 22:11:33 UTC  

Just look at how the countries of each race develop, and how they behave, when compared to other people in the same position

2018-07-31 22:12:26 UTC  

Reminds me of that comic strip: nobody has a problem accepting that things like facial structure, skin tones or even height are affected by race

2018-07-31 22:12:48 UTC  

But when it comes to behaviour, for some reason people think that race can't affect significantly and its all socioeconomic factors

2018-07-31 22:13:19 UTC  

Well, first, even in the same circumnstances there are measurable differences between races

2018-07-31 22:13:37 UTC  

And second, the differences in socioeconomic factors aren't there arbitrarily

2018-07-31 22:14:06 UTC  

Nobody has ever said that race is the only thing that determines behaviour

2018-07-31 22:21:03 UTC  

I'm having my first theological skrimish with a Muslim

2018-07-31 22:21:12 UTC  

ho ho ho

2018-07-31 22:21:13 UTC  

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so infuriating.

2018-07-31 22:21:24 UTC  

I bet he tried to constantly change the subject

2018-07-31 22:22:02 UTC  

He argued that Christ being divine is blasphamy because we're all God's children. 😂

2018-07-31 22:22:09 UTC  

And then tried to claim the Qu'ran was logical.

2018-07-31 22:22:40 UTC  

Muslims are theologically illiterate

2018-07-31 22:22:53 UTC  

Otherwise they wouldn't be muslims, since there are literally 0 reasons to be muslim

2018-07-31 22:23:16 UTC  

Just think about it: there is no great feat by Muhammed, he even bragged about not having any miracles. There are no prophecies

2018-07-31 22:23:28 UTC  

Ask someone why he is a muslim

2018-07-31 22:23:29 UTC  

Oh, I'm well aware of all this

2018-07-31 22:23:45 UTC  

And the answer will be some vague parroted garbage

2018-07-31 22:30:42 UTC  

Mfw I see a Christian Marxist

2018-07-31 22:31:08 UTC  

No such thing

2018-07-31 22:31:20 UTC  

>mfw I remind Christian Marxists that Christ was a taxpaying tradesman.

2018-07-31 23:45:57 UTC  

I once got into a theological debate over the Trinity with a semi practicing Jew

2018-07-31 23:46:21 UTC  

That was fun, considering I used the Protestant method at the time

2018-07-31 23:46:24 UTC  

>talking to jews

2018-07-31 23:46:34 UTC  

>not gassing them

2018-07-31 23:46:47 UTC  

hold up I didn't go that far

2018-08-01 00:05:52 UTC  

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2018-08-01 00:07:12 UTC  

@Mozalbete ⳩ is right that there are different kinds of inferiority

2018-08-01 00:07:38 UTC  

God loves everyone, and everyone is a sinner before him and æqually in need of salvation from outside

2018-08-01 00:07:51 UTC  

but of course not everyone is morally æqual

2018-08-01 00:08:17 UTC  

likewise, not everyone is æqually intelligent or prone to certain kinds of sins

2018-08-01 00:09:37 UTC  

@Romanus Drevo two people brought up the same way will be more similar than otherwise, of course, but I think all parents know there are differences between their children which came from genes and not from different upbringing

2018-08-01 00:19:16 UTC  

Excuse my ignorance but I fail to see why people say rights come from God
Stuff like this is just being thrown around and never explained

2018-08-01 00:20:03 UTC  

What have the privileges my goverment has given to me anything to do with it

2018-08-01 00:23:49 UTC  

Well that was the first aproximation to the theory of fundamental or human rights, normally founded in the fact that we are created creatures, but not at the same level as animals or plants, since we are created at image of God. Therefore, we have some kind of rights that the State can't violate, since humans are created at image of God and those violations means a violation of the dignity God have gave us

2018-08-01 00:30:00 UTC  

Thank you