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I've seen your first link posted a dozen times by now
yamnaya were only relatively swarthy because their EHG forefathers mixed with caucasian CHG women
also please do cite the part from that study that gives any credence to your claim of uralics invading india
wait I have to read this whole discussion first, from start
also if you're a CI, I am not even gonna take you seriously in the first place lmfao
I am a christian identiterian
LMAO
indo-europeans descend from japheth
@Uncle Zoob so, since you can't refute anything I said it can be concluded that you don't truly understand this subject and will grasp at any straw, no matter how far fetched (like uralics invading india) so as to not confront the fact that japheth's descendants conquered south asia by the grace of god
He means the Scythians
Who were indeed genetically Uralic
The Scythians also mixed with the Iranians
Hence the Yamnayan relation
Because the Scythians themselves were closely related to (but not descended from necessarily) the Yamnua culture
Yamnaya*
@Smackface define genetically uralic
The Scythians are one of a number of Steppes horde groups dating back to, iirc, 2300BC
Might be 2100
They settled in the Urals
Much like several other Steppes horde cultures
also they were mixed
with east asians and southwest asians
to some extent
No, they're given only East Asian and Yamnaya-related ancestry, that's it
Unless you have some other source to disprove this
But yeah, I think it was the Vedas that recorded a Scythian invasion that essentially ended with Scythian integration into the upper castes of Indian society, hence the Yamnaya connection, because so far I've seen no other explanation for the presence of Yamnayan blood in Indian ancestry, as they never settled anywhere close to India
the areas those samples were taken from were all pretty far north from transoxiana (which scythia also encompassed) so that's no surprise
@Smackface yamnaya didn't, but the descendants of proto-indo-iranians did
scythians probably had some genetic influence on india, but I doubt that it's because of them that R1a is nowadays such a prevalent Y-DNA lineage in south asia
Proto-indo-iranians are literally considered a hypothetical by geneticists and archaeologists
Hell, the concept of proto-indo-european itself comes from some sections of the Vedas having weird grammar that *kinda sorta looks like something a Caucasus culture /might/ have spoken*
R1a is, by standard definitions, over 20,000 years old
that's not how comparative linguistics work
Linguistics a genome do not make
R1a is 20,000 years old, but R1a1a1 isn't
and R1a1a1 encompasses 99% of modern R1a lineages
including the ones in South Asia
And the oldest sampled R1a1a1 is from Ukraine