and comprehend metaphysical realities, aided by symbols and practise

You can do the same *type* of thing in an Orthodox context, like contemplating and meditating on the symbolism of Christ's life, Genesis, etc and drawing symbolic analogies between other things in life and seeing the patterns necessarily fold out

In so far as a purely contemplative pattern recognition and appreciation goes

But esotericism outside of that type of context is tied to some really bad juju, mostly accidentally I think

like Hinduism is a heterodox tradition filled with demon-possessed and wizards

and they'll do esoterics around the symbolism of their idols

I doubt it's accidental. Abstracts and other, possibly, wishy-washy crap like that is popular with occultists, hippies, Wiccans, the like.

If you remove God from it, you can basically use it to justify all sorts of things.

There's no shortage of esoteric-like symbolic exegesis in the biblical traditions, which is why I think it's accidental

ie the symbol of turning the waters into wine

or of walking on waters

In the paschal liturgy, there's a mention of the Theotokos saying something along the lines of "Where is my Son? Is he off turning water into wine somewhere?" while he's crucified on the cross

and the thing is, he actually *is* in a symbolic sense

Since the waters are a symbol of the circumstances you find yourself in, the passions, all the troubles the world throws at you

And the miracle of turning the waters into wine is a prefiguration of the crucifixion and resurrection - since Christ willingly accepted his Crucifixion and rose from the dead accordingly

The waters turning into wine is a symbol of amor fati

Okay, I understand none of that.

But I need to go anyway.

Sorry, but bye.

Ok, byebye

"In the paschal liturgy, there's a mention of the Theotokos saying something along the lines of "Where is my Son? Is he off turning water into wine somewhere?" while he's crucified on the cross"

Nigga, what?

I don't remember the line from memory since I heard it for the first time earlier this year

also this is dog liturgy

Cat liturgy may be different

but I distinctly remember it, since my reaction to that line being read was a feeling of sadness at the Theotokos wondering if her son was off performing a repetition of first miracle she intercessed him to perform

It was very tragic

But then it later hit me that it was a subtle hint in the liturgy towards what the symbolism is

The liturgy is so fucking good

I can't wait for next pascha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqNvEy4K4EQ

@󠀂 󠀂 I hate artists too. A bunch of pretentious degenerate propaganda machines. And the escapism that fills anime, too

If you guys are always mad when your side is not in power, why would you support democracy.

I don't think anybody here supports the republic (which js not a democracy)

Democracy is gay

It is democracy

Everyone understands for democracy people voting to decide what is done

It doesn't matter that in some votes states are not weighted by population

In the end the mob decides

Precisely, I don't support democracy because I know that virtue will never, EVER be in power, and that it only leads to a degeneracy spiral

It's not democracy. We have electoral college and government decides on issues and warfare, we only influence who can enter office

Which are all in the end elected through votes