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They are mostly Wesleyan Arminian
And they're split on "Lordship Salvation" and "easy believism"
As a former Protestant most Protestants are impossible to reason witg
You have to know how to approach
You'll likely find Confessional Lutherans and Anglo-Catholics easier to talk with
Baptists and Anabaptists are pretty insane to reason with though
I am willing to try, but as I myself am newly an apostolic christian it would be a great boon to find a woman already here
Though, tbh, I don't really want the Lutherans and Anglos converted to EO because those are my kin lol
you need to convert, and bring them with you
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Well yeah, all Prots lest Anglo-Catholics are anathematized by Nicaea II
That's actually the hardest thing for me as a Lutheran--Nicaea II
Because we don't pray to saints
Or rather ask for intercession
@Quarantine_Zone so Calvinist soteriology along with Pentecostal glossolalia?
Sounds like my mother tbh
Nah lol
Wesleyan Arminianism
I can send in a flowchart of prot Soteriologies
There are quite a few variants on Calvinism and Arminianism and 2 variants in Lutheranism
There are 6 variants on Arminianism essentially
Two of such variants are part of "Wesleyan" Soteriology, IE New Wesleyan and Old Wesleyan
One variant of Arminianism is "Open Theology Arminianism," which is by and large apostate IMO
One variant is known as "Classical/Reformed Arminianism," two names for the same thing. Those guys are closer to Lutherans and Calvinists.
Then there are "Dispensational Arminians" which is related to Dispensational Eschatology because they often go hand-in-hand, but they are theologically unrelated for the most part.
And lastly, OSAS Arminians.
Wesleyan Soteriology is actually kinda close to EO
You'll find some Anglicans who have Wesleyan Soteriology and lean Eastern on many topics. I know some in a Protestant Patristics group
I forget the difference b/w Old and New Wesleyans though. I think Methodists tend to lean toward Old Wesleyan and Nazarenes and Wesleyans lean toward New Wesleyan.
@Quarantine_Zone I thought Baptists followed Calvinist soteriology?
Penties follow Arminianism
@Quarantine_Zone I wouldn’t let conciliatory anathemas get you down too much. Early Christendom tended to talk overly tough with their anathemas. Before Nicaea I, Alexander of Alexandria started to take issue with Arius. Arius caught wind that he was prolly gonna get condemned so he fled to Constantinople and got Eusebius of Nicomedia to team up with him. Alexander got Arius condemned at a local council, but Arius and Eusebius got Alexander anathematized. Does Eusebius’ anathema stand just because he was part of the one true church?
@ Baptists are split on Calvinism vs Arminianism, but the Arminian Baptists are Reformed/Classical Arminians
@ανονυμους βοττομτεξτ Ecumenical council anathemae are at a whole different level though. I see no way around being anathematized by the seventh council
I hold to the first 6 and much of the 7th, which is more than 90% of Prots, but I can't hold to all of 7
Think of it this way
In an individual setting, the office of the keys=contingent upon repentance
Even a super ex opere operato Catjolic would agree that unrepentance=no absolution