Message from @Quarantine_Zone

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2019-02-19 22:14:16 UTC  

I just don't know what to believe to be honest, my parents are atheist so I grew not really believing much. I'm stuck somewhere between Islam and Christianity

2019-02-19 22:14:47 UTC  

>Islam

2019-02-19 22:15:41 UTC  

I recommend you study the religions and their original "founders", the things that were used to back up claims of providence, etc

2019-02-19 22:17:17 UTC  

I have and to be honest I am more convinced of Islam but it feels so foreign, I guess that's why I've always been more fond of Christianity

2019-02-19 22:17:28 UTC  

Mhm

2019-02-19 22:17:33 UTC  

Have you examined historical evidence?

2019-02-19 22:17:35 UTC  

Also Albanian ancestry 👆

2019-02-19 22:17:43 UTC  

You are more convinced of the claims of a pedophile warlord who thought Mary was part of the Trinity?

2019-02-19 22:18:07 UTC  

Who raided his way to a huge harem and army

2019-02-19 22:18:31 UTC  

Also, why would you be convinced of a religion that is based on a single guy's vision rather than on the testament of many to public events that are verifiable?

2019-02-19 22:18:34 UTC  

With literally no miracles or phrophecies or anything that backs up any of his claims

2019-02-19 22:19:02 UTC  

Who gave a verse telling people to not to bother him after eating because he doesn't like telling guests to not to bother him

2019-02-19 22:19:05 UTC  

They claim the Quran is the miracle, also Rashidun conquests

2019-02-19 22:19:07 UTC  

And a religion that alters their own documents to match new doctrines

2019-02-19 22:19:17 UTC  

They claim to believe the OT, but altered it

2019-02-19 22:19:21 UTC  

The Quran is a book, how it is a miracle?

2019-02-19 22:20:05 UTC  

The older manuscripts are all in favor of the Hebrew/Christian tradition. The Muslim manuscripts show absolutely clear alterations that are indisputably not from the original

2019-02-19 22:20:06 UTC  

Look I'm not trying to defend Islam I only said I am also interested in it

2019-02-19 22:20:29 UTC  

Why would anyone be interested in a blatant lie?

2019-02-19 22:20:30 UTC  

@Quarantine_Zone What specifically

2019-02-19 22:20:35 UTC  

We're just curious since you said "more convinced of Islam"

2019-02-19 22:20:47 UTC  

@Deleted User Ishmael replacing Isaac for instance

2019-02-19 22:21:09 UTC  

Lest I have been lied to by the Muslims I've talked to

2019-02-19 22:21:13 UTC  

Well for example how did Muhammad know the exact details of an embryo

2019-02-19 22:21:28 UTC  

What exact details?

2019-02-19 22:21:45 UTC  

3 protective layers of the initial cells, the days in which it forms certain organs, etc

2019-02-19 22:22:01 UTC  

Citation please. Then we'll assess

2019-02-19 22:22:09 UTC  

Okay I'll get it

2019-02-19 22:22:14 UTC  

Want to examine the primary text

2019-02-19 22:22:40 UTC  

Do you mean the same Muhammed who told us that every illness can be cured with dates and then died poisoned? The same one that tells us to dip flies that fall into our drink before one of the wings contain a disease and the other one the cure?

2019-02-19 22:22:54 UTC  

I have a feeling this will end up being some vague writing or it will be easily showable by Arabic science at the time.

2019-02-19 22:23:16 UTC  

"We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)"

2019-02-19 22:23:48 UTC  

The same Muhammed that also says that the Sun sets in a muddy pool

2019-02-19 22:23:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/547543900626092033/ch1-1-a-img2.jpg

2019-02-19 22:24:01 UTC  

Is this cringe fest the reason why someone should believe in Muhammed?

2019-02-19 22:24:09 UTC  

That article reeks of reading back into the text something that isn't there

2019-02-19 22:24:19 UTC  

I don't find that image in the Quran

2019-02-19 22:24:31 UTC  

People knew basic embryonic development

2019-02-19 22:24:34 UTC  

But it describes how an embryo appears

2019-02-19 22:24:52 UTC  

It wasn't known until 1800s