Which one? That you, as an individual, liked seeing some cluster of particles changing their position in space

The mind is part of the body

It is an organ, a bunch of particles.

That is, the brain, which is what you refer to as "mind"

It animates something as much as my hand animates a rock by throwing it

So I have a soul then? Nice. So, how long will it exist?

You ask that because you are used to material things degrading

A projection of material properties, but since the soul can't be erosed, or undergo similar things, there is no reason why it would disappear, and we with it

I'm just seeing if you believe in actual infinities.

And we are said by the prophet and Christ how the soul is eternal. And those claims are backed up by many prophecies, and miracles witnessed by people who died for them

There are several infinites

There is the idea that there is no reason why something would stop

Which is perfectly possible, it keeps going

There is the idea that something has been going on "for an infinite time", which is impossible, because it implies that an infinite amount of times/events have come to an end, which contradicts infinity

I don't want to commit heresy, but I have a hard time getting around zeno's paradox concerning actual infinities. I also don't see why that means that something has to stop. The bible seems to imply infinity for sure.

Things don't have to stop for no reason

Umm, so I have this soul that will go up to heaven, right?

THat's the point of your religion?

It doesnt ahve to necessarely go to Heaven, if it dooms itself

The soul is given everything it needs to go to Heaven

Where else would it go? Hell?

Do souls go to hell? Do they exist there forever? Is it bad?

If we reject God, and God's grace, then Hell it is

We know that the nature of sin is suffering, which of course implies suffering in one way or another. And it is forever

Now some people ask themselves

I hate to throw a bone to the atheists, but that sounds totally ghoulish. Look, I hate groups of evil people on this earth too, but even I don't believe that Catholics deserve to go to hell forever. That's overkill.

"If I, who am but a random person, would be merciful enough to not to give anyone such a punishment, how could God, who is by definition infinitely merciful, doom someone to Hell". People who think that usually project our fear of something that "goes on", which is in the end worse than the punishment itself

Scripture just says that the wages of sin is death. This thing about hell is based on the idea of the eternal soul. It's a few degrees removed from scripture.

The punishments of Hell are ****deserved****

Hell is mentioned constantly by Christ, for example, as well as the punishment of the unjust

Both the mercy, and the justice of God

Alright, I'm not going to try and talk you out of it. Ehh, Christ was a Jew. He didn't believe in this fiery torture chamber you guys came up with hundreds of years later.

Christ mentions Hell

Explicitely

Can you give a citation?

Sure, wait one second.

Luke 16:19-31

**Luke 16:19-31 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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The Rich Man and Lazarus

<19> "There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. <20> And at his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, <21> who longed to satisfy his hunger with what fell from the rich man's table; even the dogs would come and lick his sores. <22> The poor man died and was carried away by the angels to be with Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried. <23> In Hades, where he was being tormented, he looked up and saw Abraham far away with Lazarus by his side. <24> He called out, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am in agony in these flames.' <25> But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that during your lifetime you received your good things, and Lazarus in like manner evil things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in agony. <26> Besides all this, between you and us a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who might want to pass from here to you cannot do so, and no one can cross from there to us.' <27> He said, 'Then, father, I beg you to send him to my father's house— <28> for I have five brothers—that he may warn them, so that they will not also come into this place of torment.' <29> Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the prophets; they should listen to them.' <30> He said, 'No, father Abraham; but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' <31> He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"```

"And the gates of hell shall not stand against it"

And the lesson is clear: whoever goes to Hell was given all he neede to not to go there

They are given the prophets, and the scriptures, and the saints, and Christ himself