Message from @Quarantine_Zone

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2019-04-04 23:22:59 UTC  

It is clear to me that nobody cared about hypothesis of how many victims there would be with one of other method. The nukes were the most powerful weapon. It doesn't matter how much firebombing, or swords, or whatever, kills in the long term. Everything kills "a lot" in the long term, but that doesn't make the method more effective. They just had the nukes and were willing to use them because they were better at their job.

2019-04-04 23:23:03 UTC  

Actually a little larger. Depends on sources

2019-04-04 23:23:18 UTC  

But if you take into account other military losses

2019-04-04 23:23:31 UTC  

The population of Tokyo dropped by roughly 50% from 1940-1945

2019-04-04 23:23:56 UTC  

Now, much of that can be attributed to drafting and military deaths, surely

2019-04-04 23:24:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/563504293869649922/nuke_kills_percent.PNG

2019-04-04 23:25:02 UTC  

Speculation about "what would have caused more victims in the long term" is meaningless, because the moral implications do not depend on long term number of victims, which are, as I mentioned, just speculation.

2019-04-04 23:25:22 UTC  

What? Yes they do

2019-04-04 23:26:02 UTC  

As if the US military didn't consider long term death tolls

2019-04-04 23:26:16 UTC  

They most certainly tried to figure out these types of hypotheticals.

2019-04-04 23:26:30 UTC  

That is like saying that dropping a nuke on every city on earth would be merciful, since otherwise they will keep reproducing, which enables more deaths and eventually the number of, lets say, murders, usrpasses that of the original popujlation

2019-04-04 23:26:39 UTC  

Hah

2019-04-04 23:26:43 UTC  

That's not even close

2019-04-04 23:26:56 UTC  

Were talking about death counts as a result of bombing

2019-04-04 23:27:03 UTC  

The US military didn't care about anything beyond the equivalent to dying for Israel

2019-04-04 23:27:19 UTC  

We are talking about death toll

2019-04-04 23:27:20 UTC  

Which would lead to more deaths? Firebombing a bunch of cities, or destroying two?

2019-04-04 23:27:44 UTC  

Not doing anything leads to more deaths, since the population survivies and the deaths keep amassing

2019-04-04 23:27:45 UTC  

How do you not kill 7% of people right next to a nuclear bomb?

2019-04-04 23:27:45 UTC  

Firebombing a bunch of cities would have caused more deaths. You can go do the math

2019-04-04 23:28:19 UTC  

Orthobro, at 1000 ft, some may have survived if they were well sheltered somehow

2019-04-04 23:28:59 UTC  

I have to do econ and spanish homework.

2019-04-04 23:29:02 UTC  

I'm out.

2019-04-04 23:29:04 UTC  

GG's

2019-04-04 23:29:15 UTC  

Again, not doing anything causes more deaths because the high population keeps a periodical murder count

2019-04-04 23:29:28 UTC  

They just used whatever was more cruel and destructives

2019-04-04 23:29:44 UTC  

the japanese were the ones who cared about their poppulation and surrendered

2019-04-04 23:30:23 UTC  

It is clear that the Us ould have just killed the entire country to death. They just used whatever was more effective

2019-04-04 23:30:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/563505703478624272/Screenshot_20190404-192824_Discord.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/563505703478624282/Screenshot_20190404-192901_Discord.jpg

2019-04-04 23:30:59 UTC  

The pic in question that urged this damage control

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/563505830956367893/hqdefault.png

2019-04-04 23:37:13 UTC  

Luther here is playing the character of a Jew. He's speaking as if he is a Jew in that time accusing Jesus.

2019-04-04 23:39:45 UTC  

It's like quoting Luke 23:5 "He is causing riots by his teaching whereever he goes!" And then saying that Luke accused Jesus of causing riots

2019-04-04 23:40:51 UTC  

So, yes, it is taken out of context because Luther didn't say it as himself. He was impersonating an ancient Jew to show how they accused and thought of Jesus.

2019-04-04 23:42:20 UTC  

This is explained easily when you draw from the original source of the quote which is a 1536 sermon (WA 41, 647).

2019-04-04 23:52:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435520935647248414/563511313876385802/Screenshot_20190404-195228_Discord.jpg

2019-04-04 23:53:39 UTC  

Lol how do I respond to that

2019-04-04 23:54:43 UTC  

What are some good books and articles on Legionarism?

2019-04-04 23:56:11 UTC  

For My Legionaries

2019-04-04 23:56:45 UTC  

lmao sauce on your profile picture?

2019-04-04 23:57:07 UTC  

is that an edit?

2019-04-04 23:58:37 UTC  

You talking to me?