Church of Christ.

But it is natural and normal to have a hierarchy in the Church

What is LDS?

Mormons

Nope

Later Day Saints

The term "elders" is mentioned several times in the Bible

Mormons and JW's are heretics.

Well, they aren't even christians

Right

I go to a Church of Christ. That is the name of my sect of restorationism.

I'd just never heard of any other groups claiming to be Christian using that phrase commonly

I wonder if protestants still can make an argument that they are saved though because they believe in "jesus's sacrifice"

Elders in our church must be married, and their household/wife/Children must be Christian.

We can see this through Paul's instruction in 2nd timothy.

If you believe Aquinas they could be saved through natural law because of Christ's sacrifice

1 Timothy 3:1-7

**1 Timothy 3:1-7 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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Qualifications of Bishops

<1> The saying is sure: whoever aspires to the office of bishop desires a noble task. <2> Now a bishop must be above reproach, married only once, temperate, sensible, respectable, hospitable, an apt teacher, <3> not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, and not a lover of money. <4> He must manage his own household well, keeping his children submissive and respectful in every way— <5> for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of God's church? <6> He must not be a recent convert, or he may be puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. <7> Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace and the snare of the devil. ```

Elder fits here, as well as overseer

1 Timothy 3:1-7 NIV

**1 Timothy 3:1-7 - New International Version (NIV)**

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Qualifications for Overseers and Deacons

<1> Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. <2> Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, <3> not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. <4> He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect. <5> (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church? ) <6> He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. <7> He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil's trap. ```

So it is a requirement for us to be married if we are to be elders

I know Orthodox allow their priests to be married, which is good.

Lmaoing at married priests

1 Timothy 3:1-7

**1 Timothy 3:1-7 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust
Qualifications of Bishops

<1> The saying is sure: whoever aspires to the office of bishop desires a noble task. <2> Now a bishop must be above reproach, married only once, temperate, sensible, respectable, hospitable, an apt teacher, <3> not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, and not a lover of money. <4> He must manage his own household well, keeping his children submissive and respectful in every way— <5> for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how can he take care of God's church? <6> He must not be a recent convert, or he may be puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. <7> Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace and the snare of the devil. ```

Lmaoing at unmarried priests

Especially making a requirement out of something that Paul himself was under virginity

Paul never made that a requirement.

We allow unmarried priests as well.

You really can't compare those who are married to those who dedicate their lives to God

The point is that, once you're ordained, everyone else in the Church is your spiritual child, so dating, marriage, etc. after that is a kind of spiritual incest.

1 Timothy 4:1-4

**1 Timothy 4:1-4 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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False Asceticism

<1> Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will renounce the faith by paying attention to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, <2> through the hypocrisy of liars whose consciences are seared with a hot iron. <3> They forbid marriage and demand abstinence from foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. <4> For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected, provided it is received with thanksgiving; ```

I really dont get your point

You forbid priests to be married.

@Mozalbete ⳩ he's saying celibacy and fasting are heretical.

Never said fasting was heretical

Sure because that is what is expected froma priest

Which is stupid. Fasts are as old as the Church.

Nobody forces them to be priest