Message from @Mozalbete ⳩

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2019-05-15 06:48:29 UTC  

Okay and there are many more he did not fulfill. most of the alleged fulfilled ones are not even messianic.

2019-05-15 06:48:32 UTC  

Are you even self-aware?

2019-05-15 06:48:41 UTC  

They do are messianic

2019-05-15 06:48:49 UTC  

That's again an ad hominem. Being a rabbi does not discount his argument.

2019-05-15 06:48:51 UTC  

Of course you have this pathetic damage control trying to say "t-they don't count"

2019-05-15 06:48:54 UTC  

Of course they are

2019-05-15 06:49:02 UTC  

Why do you think jews converted en masse?

2019-05-15 06:49:09 UTC  

>here is someone who hates Christ's interpretations of Christ

2019-05-15 06:49:23 UTC  

Do you know why jews always say prophecies weren't fulfilled

2019-05-15 06:49:27 UTC  

I did not say they don't count. I am saying those are not about the messiah. Isaiah 53 is clearly about the servant Israel (Isaiah 49:3)

2019-05-15 06:49:28 UTC  

**Isaiah 49:3 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<3> And he said to me, "You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified."```

2019-05-15 06:49:35 UTC  

Because they expected a general that would lead them to victory against their enemies

2019-05-15 06:49:40 UTC  

>these 300 don't count, the wording on this one can be twisted by jews to mean this so HA

2019-05-15 06:49:46 UTC  

So they don't recognize the messiah

2019-05-15 06:49:54 UTC  

Which is precisely what was prophecised lmao

2019-05-15 06:50:03 UTC  

Again

2019-05-15 06:50:12 UTC  

Wisdom 2:1-24

2019-05-15 06:50:13 UTC  

**Wisdom 2:1-24 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<1> For they have said, reasoning with themselves, but not right: The time of our life is short and tedious, and in the end of a man there is no remedy, and no man hath been known to have returned from hell: <2> For we are born of nothing, and after this we shall be as if we had not been: for the breath in our nostrils is smoke: and speech a spark to move our heart, <3> Which being put out, our body shall be ashes, and our spirit shall be poured abroad as soft air, and our life shall pass away as the trace of a cloud, and shall be dispersed as a mist, which is driven away by the beams of the sun, and overpowered with the heat thereof: <4> And our name in time shall be forgotten, and no man shall have any remembrance of our works. <5> For our time is as the passing of a shadow, and there is no going back of our end: for it is fast sealed, and no man returneth. <6> Come therefore, and let us enjoy the good things that are present, and let us speedily use the creatures as in youth. <7> Let us fill ourselves with costly wine, and ointments: and let not the flower of the time pass by us. <8> Let us crown ourselves with roses, before they be withered: let no meadow escape our riot. <9> Let none of us go without his part in luxury: let us everywhere leave tokens of joy: for this is our portion, and this our lot. <10> Let us oppress the poor just man, and not spare the widow, nor honour the ancient grey hairs of the aged. <11> But let our strength be the law of justice: for that which```

2019-05-15 06:50:13 UTC  

```Dust
is feeble, is found to be nothing worth. <12> Let us therefore lie in wait for the just, because he is not for our turn, and he is contrary to our doings, and upbraideth us with transgressions of the law, and divulgeth against us the sins of our way of life. <13> He boasteth that he hath the knowledge of God, and calleth himself the son of God. <14> He is become a censurer of our thoughts. <15> He is grievous unto us, even to behold: for his life is not like other men's, and his ways are very different. <16> We are esteemed by him as triflers, and he abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness, and he preferreth the latter end of the just, and glorieth that he hath God for his father. <17> Let us see then if his words be true, and let us prove what shall happen to him, and we shall know what his end shall be. <18> For if he be the true son of God, he will defend him, and will deliver him from the hands of his enemies. <19> Let us examine him by outrages and tortures, that we may know his meekness and try his patience. <20> Let us condemn him to a most shameful death: for there shall be respect had unto him by his words. <21> These things they thought, and were deceived: for their own malice blinded them. <22> And they knew not the secrets of God, nor hoped for the wages of justice, nor esteemed the honour of holy souls. <23> For God created man incorruptible, and to the image of his own likeness he made him. <24> But by the envy of the devil, death came into the world: ```

2019-05-15 06:50:28 UTC  

I am not reading walls of texts. If you want to make an argument, make it yourself.

2019-05-15 06:50:36 UTC  

YEt you link to webpages

2019-05-15 06:50:42 UTC  

At least I give you directly the text

2019-05-15 06:50:50 UTC  

That was to counter your sleazy tactics of also linking webpages.

2019-05-15 06:50:54 UTC  

When the argument is about prophecies, you expect me to not show prophecies?

2019-05-15 06:50:59 UTC  

If you want to make passing points, links are fine

2019-05-15 06:51:04 UTC  

IT doesn't surprise me, though

2019-05-15 06:51:08 UTC  

>I'm not reading the thing that proves me wrong, distill it so I can make a strawman

2019-05-15 06:51:15 UTC  

That you are used to not reading them, and still dismissing them

2019-05-15 06:51:22 UTC  

Let us be honest, Horatio

2019-05-15 06:51:33 UTC  

You have been raised by muslims, so you defend Islam as a habit

2019-05-15 06:51:40 UTC  

No. Make the prophecy and show me the fulfillement. Don't post large walls of texts of a boring book and expect me to read it.

2019-05-15 06:51:52 UTC  

>literally quoting scripture
>"stop posting walls of text and make your argument"

<:wojakbrainlet1:510858664534474752> <:wojakbrainlet1:510858664534474752> <:wojakbrainlet1:510858664534474752> <:wojakbrainlet1:510858664534474752>

2019-05-15 06:51:54 UTC  

>You have been raised by muslims, so you defend Islam as a habit


That does not matter.

2019-05-15 06:51:58 UTC  

Literal list

2019-05-15 06:52:04 UTC  

You know perfectly well that Muhammed does not hold up as a prophet, and all his claims are ridiculous and contradict every scripture before him

2019-05-15 06:52:20 UTC  

If you aren't going to do the work then do everyone a favor and leave buddy @Horatio

2019-05-15 06:52:22 UTC  

Dude, I don't care what you think your scriptures say. I gave two arguments above that he is.

2019-05-15 06:52:38 UTC  

>Prove with your scriptures I don't care about

2019-05-15 06:53:04 UTC  

For example

2019-05-15 06:53:06 UTC  

Let me show you