Message from @orio679

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2019-06-10 20:08:21 UTC  

Lovely. Everyone have a nice day?

2019-06-10 20:08:33 UTC  

Allegedly

2019-06-10 20:08:49 UTC  

Life is a constant stream of misery caused by the abandonment of God

2019-06-10 20:13:40 UTC  

No

2019-06-10 20:14:04 UTC  

Don't laugh react me

2019-06-10 20:14:28 UTC  

You deserve a beating

2019-06-10 20:14:42 UTC  

Truly the only cure for those disorders

2019-06-10 20:15:45 UTC  

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2019-06-10 20:16:16 UTC  

Pointless memes aside, if you have questions, shoot.

2019-06-10 20:16:17 UTC  

Sorry I was just reading the rules there. So what are people's beliefs here about the Eucharist? Or communion?

2019-06-10 20:16:37 UTC  

It is what Christ tells us it is

2019-06-10 20:16:52 UTC  

Which can be seen also in the writtings of early christians

2019-06-10 20:17:06 UTC  

It's the literal flesh and blood of Christ.

2019-06-10 20:17:30 UTC  

Some greenskins will disagree

2019-06-10 20:17:36 UTC  

No u

2019-06-10 20:19:03 UTC  

We have all 3 factions represented here, Orthodox, Catholic and protestant.

2019-06-10 20:19:08 UTC  

Looking at what Christ said. He said in John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, theyare spirit, and they are life." (KJV)

So it seems that Christ lays some context here to further clarify his position on what he meant when he broke bread and gave wine. Would everyone agree that he was focusing on the spiritual aspect of it and not the actual flesh?

2019-06-10 20:19:09 UTC  

**John 6:63 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<63> It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. ```

2019-06-10 20:19:55 UTC  

With the flesh, he refers to wordly things, to the *our* flesh and bones.

2019-06-10 20:19:58 UTC  

Based nrsv

2019-06-10 20:21:26 UTC  

Hmm how was he referring to our flesh when he said that in context to the last super?

2019-06-10 20:21:53 UTC  

The same way there are many writtings about the passions of the flesh

2019-06-10 20:22:30 UTC  

Could as well sya that since the flesh profiteth nothing, God wouldn't incarnate

2019-06-10 20:24:21 UTC  

After all, why do you say it is described how many left him after those words about eating his flesh and drinking his blood? Or why christians were slandered with cannivalism?

2019-06-10 20:26:03 UTC  

Because this wasn't just some silly metaphor, it was important doctrine

2019-06-10 20:26:19 UTC  

It's a good question. However there are some early church Christians who also questioned transubstantiation

2019-06-10 20:27:00 UTC  

Many people will also probably question that 2+2=4

2019-06-10 20:27:10 UTC  

Judas questioned that Christ was the Messiah, probably

2019-06-10 20:29:28 UTC  

🅱️eter questioned 3 times

2019-06-10 20:32:58 UTC  

The early Church also had other heresies spring up, like nestorianism. Just because some random person thought something doesn't mean it's true.

2019-06-10 20:33:04 UTC  

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2019-06-10 20:34:58 UTC  

My main issue with Protestantism is the fact that there are so many different Denominations all claiming they're the only ones who are right.

2019-06-10 20:35:23 UTC  

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2019-06-10 20:35:30 UTC  

I don't even understand what that sentence tries to say. Of course eating the flesh and blood has an effect on your spirit, because they are literally the flesh and blood

2019-06-10 20:35:33 UTC  

Who's saying that

2019-06-10 20:35:40 UTC  

Aaaah if only the apostles had named succesors

2019-06-10 20:35:57 UTC  

Orthodox answer: The mystery of the holy eucharist defies analysis and explanation in purely rational and logical terms. For the eucharist—and Christ Himself—is indeed a mystery of the Kingdom of Heaven which, as Jesus has told us, is “not of this world.” The eucharist—because it belongs to God’s Kingdom—is truly free from the earth-born “logic” of fallen humanity.

2019-06-10 20:37:16 UTC  

The orthodox answer seems ambiguous. You could use that to justify symbolic. Consubstantiation & transubstantiation.

2019-06-10 20:37:49 UTC  

Ambiguous - That's mystery for you

2019-06-10 20:37:52 UTC  

There is nothing symbolic about it

2019-06-10 20:38:41 UTC  

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