Yes, quite.

Given that they are not themselves, a correct advice is " just don't be stupid"

Indeed.

And I don't think Iohannes was talking about this situation in particular

But rather about concerning tattoos in general

Orio asked a very specific question, and I gave an answer in that context. What pilgrims did in the 14th centurty is absolutely irrelevant

I'm just speaking in general.

The question is whether they are a sin or not

They are not

Not at all. If something is sinful now, it would have been equally as sinful six hundred years ago.

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You're being puritanical.

We all hate the typical tattooed retard as much as you do

And a moral relativist.

But we have to be stric

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If you see no difference between tattooing your arms in order to cover up 'chicken skin' and getting a tattoo to commemorate your pilgrimage to Jerusalem (even though I view that as being equally stupid although not necessarily sinful), then I can't help you.

Yes, I'm the moral relativist <:GWlulurdMmmYea:402868023393910794>

You are moving goalposts

He made a very specific question

And for the record, the 14th century was more than 600 years ago

Which is whether tattoos are or not sinful

He also made a very specific follow up question

Two, in fact

He didn't

He mentioned some facts

But that is unrelated to the answer to the question

Those are rather related to whether or not the tattoo is a good idea

You called me out, as a Catholic, for defending tattoos. I gave you examples of where tattoos are alright, and you kicked off about me "moving the goalposts", even though I had done absolutely no such thing.

No need for anyone to be upset, we all know tattoos for these frivolous reasons are a bad idea

Pilgrimage tats are pretty cool tbh

@SUPER MALE VITALITY™ I remember seeing some half sleeves from the holy land with a mix of religious symbols in them that looked pretty good, but for the life of me can't find the source I first found it in.

There is also a long tradition of tattooing in Christian Bosnia and Herzegovina

Bosnian Christians also have an average IQ of 89 <:GWlulurdMmmYea:402868023393910794>
Anyway, I apologise for getting all riled up, it's probably just my empty stomach doing the talking

truly the greatest of causes for autism

@orio679 consider custom clothing from artscow

Pretty much the only way I could see myself getting a tat is traditional pilgrimage tattooing. Can't remember the name of the shop, but it's in the Holy Land been doing them for like hundreds of years, I've thought about getting a wrist Jerusalem Cross someday

I would rather get some clothing or accessory that will trigger degenerates

No theyre not sinful but dont get them tbh.

Once again, that's not very nuanced.

@GodFearingEnglishman sorry mate, but today you are buying https://www.etsy.com/es/listing/559845168/parche-de-virgen-grande-virgen-de-la?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=catholic+patch&ref=sr_gallery-1-5&organic_search_click=1&frs=1