Keep this in mind

@GodFearingEnglishman I just find it funny that a Catholic of all people would defend the plague that are tattoos

They are a plague

But one must be careful in saying why they are a plague

Saying "no, on the whole, this isn't sinful" is hardly a defence. Just stating facts.

Which is not because they are themselves a sin, but because they usually are a symptom of short-sightendness, degeneracy, wanting to be a special snowflake, etc

Saying 'just don't be frivolous' to someone who's planning to get tattoos to express their region of origin and to cover up their skin is no different than encouraging them to sin outright

Here is a common tattoo which pilgrims used to have after visiting the Holy Land, since 1300. Is this sinful? Is it a plague?

Would I be "encouraging someone to sin outright" if I told them that they could get it?

One must differentiate "sinful" from "stupid"

We're talking about a very specific situation here, buddy. Quit trying to change the goalpost @GodFearingEnglishman

Doing no such thing.

The goalpost is whether or not tattoos are sinful

I'm just not speaking absolutely, whereas you are.

Yes, quite.

Given that they are not themselves, a correct advice is " just don't be stupid"

Indeed.

And I don't think Iohannes was talking about this situation in particular

But rather about concerning tattoos in general

Orio asked a very specific question, and I gave an answer in that context. What pilgrims did in the 14th centurty is absolutely irrelevant

I'm just speaking in general.

The question is whether they are a sin or not

They are not

Not at all. If something is sinful now, it would have been equally as sinful six hundred years ago.

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You're being puritanical.

We all hate the typical tattooed retard as much as you do

And a moral relativist.

But we have to be stric

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If you see no difference between tattooing your arms in order to cover up 'chicken skin' and getting a tattoo to commemorate your pilgrimage to Jerusalem (even though I view that as being equally stupid although not necessarily sinful), then I can't help you.

Yes, I'm the moral relativist <:GWlulurdMmmYea:402868023393910794>

You are moving goalposts

He made a very specific question

And for the record, the 14th century was more than 600 years ago

Which is whether tattoos are or not sinful

He also made a very specific follow up question

Two, in fact

He didn't

He mentioned some facts

But that is unrelated to the answer to the question