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jojo you dummy that aint a thumbs up
its a checkmark
Yeah it scans
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The white one scans but not the black one for me
white is right, I guess.
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Sorry for the @here but if y'all could scan this QR code for me and tell me if it does or doesn't work that would be great :3
It works
Yeah but I need more people to test
My Godfather's joke :
A Muslim and A Jew bet who is the one falling on the ground swiftly from top on the top of the building, Who is winner?
He said The Answer is the Society because two trashes are cleared automatically so Society is winner
And His another joke : If The Jews do apologize?(Apologize in Korean word is same pronounciation with apple in Korean word) and he answered Apple Jewce
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Scans on iOS
What's this 'confirmed catholic' thing about?
It's for Catholics that have been Confirmed as in received Confirmation
It's the kool kids klub
@zuckernerd I'm well aware of the current situation with the Order's Grand Master, but that does not define the morality and theological views of the entire order. Would one have discouraged somebody from joining the Catholic Church when the Latin Mass was all but banned in the 1970s?
the order is not the church, and is not infallible
Your point?
The Sovereign Military Order of Malta has existed for just about 1000 years. One minor blip within that period does not suddenly redefine the entire Order's history or future. The vast majority of members, both clerical and lay, continue to show loyalty to the Latin Mass and orthodox theology.
I would not be so brash as to make predictions about the future of the order. It is quite clear this blip will affect the near future, but beyond that is anyone's game
whether something lasts a long time or not is irrelevant. The church is eternal because Christ said it so, but orders, states, organisations and people rise and fall with the winds of time
malta is no different
I beg to differ. An order which has survived such a long time and with such abundant spiritual rewards has obtained evident favour from God.
Byzantium lasted for over a thousand years too
Byzantium fell into schism with the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church <:thinksmirk:564102152239185920>
Western Roman Empire fell too
I get his point
The fall of the Western Roman Empire led to minor kingdoms which only helped the spread of Christianity further across Europe, and eventually the world.
Yes.. Usually things happen for the faith to grow stronger, but his point is that institutions come and go
Said institutions usually fall into severe degeneracy or separation from the True Church.
Whilst the current ban on the Traditional Latin Mass is rather unpromising, I doubt it is the beginning of the end for the Order.
I get it that the Order of Malta has been close to the faith before, but this can be seen as a step from it moving away from it
Should it be condemned? No, I agree with you that it shouldn't
But it should raise a red flag