da joo

fears

da samurai

Too bad that guy is an arian

And a cult leader

Neat

Cults are good though

Tfw Daniil is a cult leader :^)

Tfw no kool aid

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unless spousal abuse, the kind that threatens the life of mother and children, is punishable by death, its cruel to not allow women to leave
and if women are allowed to leave, its cruel to not allow them to remarry in a context where the provider is a man

Coon aid?

Cult reference

But yes

It's a shame that mentality is condemned by Christ, Paul, etc

Keep saying th same things, which are a perversion of Christianity, and I will keep answering

Because you don't even do, as most do, who try to talk only about fornicaiton. You go a step ahead

if only you could answer when such pervesion started

Why is that relevant?

Do you really think

That if I cant point out a specific version

It has been there forever? lmao

We have already shown you Scripture, and the Fathers, how can you try to keep this illusion that "it has been that way forever"?

Should I also give you the hair color and show size of whoever spread the idea for the first time?

Probably dark brown hair <:thinksmirk:564102152239185920>

Paul literally says... LITERALLY, that if a woman departs from her husband, she is not to remarry, but reconcile

But of course, you must know better than the cruel Paul

Calling Paul cruel is really a high level of irony

Paul also said to not marry in the first place but be a volcel all your life

Paul said, as it is held too, that the greatest virtue is abstinence for God, which is dogmatically recognized as such

He doesn't say "marriage is evil, but deal with it and recognize it as legitimate"

So, do you want to accept divorce? Very well, but divorce is a separation, which doesn't enable another marriage

you havent actually shown scripture

at least, where it says "separate" or "put away", the translators not trying to jump through hoops usually write "divorce"

Yes, sure. And those must not remarry

what is the writing of the church fathers that was also supposedly shown?

its not what nano cyborg posted

since its a collectoon showing that the saints and fathers were not unanimous

I gave you St Augustine, but I can also give you Jerome and John Chrysostom and more, but why arque all of this instead of just conceding that those divorced can't remarry?

Scripture acknowledges divorce as a secular thing, but it says that whoever marries again is committing adultery, and whoever marries someone that's divorced is committing adultery.

Marriage is the joining of two souls