Message from @Daniil
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Whether in reality or in potentiality
Never use those arguments
Any opposition that is based on some kind of "utilitarianism" ends up crumbling
In a more or less subtle way, what you say has to include the idea of it being filthy in nature
Because there is an order to things, against which is goes
Deny that it is a filthy, disordered thing, and you can pretty much justify any hideous act, since there is nothing to go against
Because all good and evil is based on the natural law, on the order, the logos. According to this order, the passions of the flesh have as purpose the begetting of children in a family that is consolidated and made actual with a marriage
So indulging in those filthy fantasies is perverse. Not because at certain point you generate whatever chemical or similar, but because of its nature
Idk, at some point you get so used to it that your brain becomes desensitized to the filthiness. It can help if you think about what you're losing by investing yourself in it
So there is no moderation. All pornography is the result of an already existing addiction to vice, to lack of morals, and to acceptance of perversion
And this all is supported by just taking a look at the miserable, pathetic, filthy lives of those who willingly and without remorse indulge in it
Really difficult to convince him
He has successfully convinced himself into thinking in proper moderation
Bring up other things that are bad in moderation, like shooting oneself.
You won't convince anyone in one conversation anyway. Just have to keep banging on the gates.
Images stay in your mind for a long time. And then it affects your relationships. No moderation possible there.
These appeals to utilitarianism only backfire
Depends
The idea that I am literally wasting my life-force really makes me terrified.
Explaining things is deconstructionism
Shitting on retards is poopypantsyism
If he has no moral objection to watching porn call him a retard and move on
From what you're telling me theres no "yeah, I get that it's wrong"
It's his legitimate belief that porn is just another aspect of life
Pull tha gat on him 🔫
with moderation
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a good way to get a proner to understand how garbage his moderation angle is, offer him a seinfeld bet
entice with a large bill, $100 or something
"free money if you dont fap before i do"
you have to be able to trust one another on an honour system
but even then, even if he cheats, he will face his own inability to stop
It’s just a stupid way to condemn yourself tbh
Porn that is
Hey
I am a seventh day Adventist and I was told this group is the right place to come to
@Daniil is this correct?