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It gets all sciency about it

I did point out how ridiculous the arguments were and how pornography is bad and he just said "you're looking at the extreme bad end of the spectrum"

Where does he take that from?

I mean, we are clearly talking about all pornography. The things we mention are just symptoms of the moral rot that is ALL pornography, in ANY amount

IT's not that if we didn't have those facts everything would be fine, those are just the indicators of its nature, which is a consequence of the fact that it is a lustful act, a vice

Every second spent on porn is a second stolen from a loved one

Whether in reality or in potentiality

Never use those arguments

Any opposition that is based on some kind of "utilitarianism" ends up crumbling

In a more or less subtle way, what you say has to include the idea of it being filthy in nature

Because there is an order to things, against which is goes

Deny that it is a filthy, disordered thing, and you can pretty much justify any hideous act, since there is nothing to go against

Because all good and evil is based on the natural law, on the order, the logos. According to this order, the passions of the flesh have as purpose the begetting of children in a family that is consolidated and made actual with a marriage

So indulging in those filthy fantasies is perverse. Not because at certain point you generate whatever chemical or similar, but because of its nature

Idk, at some point you get so used to it that your brain becomes desensitized to the filthiness. It can help if you think about what you're losing by investing yourself in it

So there is no moderation. All pornography is the result of an already existing addiction to vice, to lack of morals, and to acceptance of perversion

And this all is supported by just taking a look at the miserable, pathetic, filthy lives of those who willingly and without remorse indulge in it

Really difficult to convince him

He has successfully convinced himself into thinking in proper moderation

Bring up other things that are bad in moderation, like shooting oneself.

You won't convince anyone in one conversation anyway. Just have to keep banging on the gates.

Images stay in your mind for a long time. And then it affects your relationships. No moderation possible there.

These appeals to utilitarianism only backfire

Depends

The idea that I am literally wasting my life-force really makes me terrified.

It's all about finding what makes the person tick and then pressing on those buttons

Explaining things is deconstructionism

Shitting on retards is poopypantsyism

If he has no moral objection to watching porn call him a retard and move on

From what you're telling me theres no "yeah, I get that it's wrong"

It's his legitimate belief that porn is just another aspect of life

Pull tha gat on him 🔫

with moderation

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a good way to get a proner to understand how garbage his moderation angle is, offer him a seinfeld bet

entice with a large bill, $100 or something

"free money if you dont fap before i do"

you have to be able to trust one another on an honour system