https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4j2d7iLWsw

Also a good material

Explaining exactly why even moderation is bad. Because it still impacts your dopamine receptors

One can't just arbitrarily say "hurr durr there iw nothing wrong with it!"

Nothing wrong with a lil meth in moderation, buddy

Anything I say he just says "it's in moderation, addiction is the problem"
And since he only explicitly reads h*ntai he keeps saying "i like the plot, not the sex"

The thing is, there is no "moderation"

Like with many other things

Overall he just keeps going back to moderation

Which is why you should just state there is no moderation in things that are filthy and perverse

>he keeps saying "i like the plot, not the sex"
lmao

Think that's the problem, he doesnt think of it as filthy and perverse, he considers it "an outlet, artform, way of expression"

Its literally the same argument that potheads make: "its not addictive, I can stop at any moment"

Could as well call raping children all of those

Well, then you have to prove to him how porn is a prison to one's mind, and how it ruins your life without you realising it

To begin with, by just showing him the brutal nonsense he is spitting

It's going to be hard, since as you see, his brain is already rotten

And then show him how much of a loser he is and what he could've done instead of all the hours spent tugging himself

Check out yourbrainonporn.com

It gets all sciency about it

I did point out how ridiculous the arguments were and how pornography is bad and he just said "you're looking at the extreme bad end of the spectrum"

Where does he take that from?

I mean, we are clearly talking about all pornography. The things we mention are just symptoms of the moral rot that is ALL pornography, in ANY amount

IT's not that if we didn't have those facts everything would be fine, those are just the indicators of its nature, which is a consequence of the fact that it is a lustful act, a vice

Every second spent on porn is a second stolen from a loved one

Whether in reality or in potentiality

Never use those arguments

Any opposition that is based on some kind of "utilitarianism" ends up crumbling

In a more or less subtle way, what you say has to include the idea of it being filthy in nature

Because there is an order to things, against which is goes

Deny that it is a filthy, disordered thing, and you can pretty much justify any hideous act, since there is nothing to go against

Because all good and evil is based on the natural law, on the order, the logos. According to this order, the passions of the flesh have as purpose the begetting of children in a family that is consolidated and made actual with a marriage

So indulging in those filthy fantasies is perverse. Not because at certain point you generate whatever chemical or similar, but because of its nature

Idk, at some point you get so used to it that your brain becomes desensitized to the filthiness. It can help if you think about what you're losing by investing yourself in it

So there is no moderation. All pornography is the result of an already existing addiction to vice, to lack of morals, and to acceptance of perversion

And this all is supported by just taking a look at the miserable, pathetic, filthy lives of those who willingly and without remorse indulge in it

Really difficult to convince him

He has successfully convinced himself into thinking in proper moderation

Bring up other things that are bad in moderation, like shooting oneself.

You won't convince anyone in one conversation anyway. Just have to keep banging on the gates.