Message from @Grengar
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Not by itself, no
Also, infinity its impossible to know, because we could never know if something that appears infinite is actually infinite
But we know that numbers are infinite
Well, logic and maths in general are infinite, the abstract world is infinite, so we know that the infinite is logically provable, just as a god is logically provable
I wouldn't say it's all default knowledge. A child might understand 2+2 = 4 but pi is a complete mystery to them. The point being that they need to grow and expand their knowledge and understanding of mathematics.
yeah, but they could find pi with just rezoning
Right, but it isn't innate
empirical science comes from studying the world around us, formal science comes from pure reasoning
you don't born with the tools to know history or physics, but you born with the tools to know maths
let a human in a room isolated from the world and the only science he could develop to the maximum state are formal science
And metaphysics is a formal science like mathematics
Ah, le logical empiricism
May I ask what works of the Vienna circle have you read?
The question of the existence of God is a metaphysical one because there is not necessarily any empirical proof
but metaphysics, from what i know, are not axioms like maths and logic, there are different beliefs towards metaphysics, but not with maths and logic
works of the Vienna circle?
Logical empiricism is a collective definition set by the works of many authors who were memebers of a group called the Vienna circle
you are right, maybe there is no empirical way to prove it, but if you want to make it irrefutable, then it has to be proved in the abstract like maths
Still?
Maths don’t even support each other
Ever heard of Gödels incompleteness theorems?
some logical paradox?
Maths don’t add up as a language, they stop making sense when put together
i will google it
Ok
@Enryse may I suggest that reading the philosophers who actually make the claim may be more beneficial than asking internet strangers?
you could redirect me to some of them
please
Lol
yeah that didnt helped the last time
i have invested a lot of time seeking a proof of god existence, of an after life, and other things, but i haven't found any that is irrefutable
because, believe or not, i want the after life to be true
Thomas Aquinas is one, Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange
That's pretty selfish bro
Yeah, Aquinas is for the niggas who always (allegedly) seek reason
I honestly have inclined more towards Palamite theology, but Aquinas is still an og big dog gangsta in this game
Yeah, I think I'm more inclined to Scotism myself
Also, MacIntyre is good too