maybe no one starved but people didn't really have that great of lives, slavory was rampant in Egypt

Ma'at was only conceptual in Egypt, and for the ancient Mediterranean they had quite fair lives

Egypt to me was a starting point

Not the destination

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also if you think we're in a decay period right now how do you explain technology constantly improving with ever more inovation?

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Because we haven't reached collapse yet, we are still in what could be considered the golden era of our civilisations

On the start to decline

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There will be more conflict to come, more innovation

What we know will come to fall, but I won't even pretend to have any clue when

very intersting you see it that way, other political ideologies such as neo reactionaries and the alt right would say we're very near collaspse right now, basicaly teatering on the edge

Not really

They see incoming struggle, which to me is progress

When cultures clash their fighting only creates technological innovation, despite the loss of life

We near collapse when one civilisation stands on the corpses of the rest proclaiming victory unchallenged

Infact these reactionaries to me are progress

They are innovation

Wanting to uproot the social order is not stagnation

Complacency with it is

I apreaciate your perspective because even as a libertarian we have our own views which mirror thos of the altright specificaly on economics, that the economy can't sustaine it self at this current level do to banking manipulation and while this is not the same as societal decay it leads to basicaly the same disaserous outcomes more less, it's nice to know there are other well read people out there that think maybe we have several more decades to go before things get really bad

I'd give us centuries still

Rome had economic failings, and disasters

But they never outright strangled it

The complacency of its populace and the lack of virtue did

centuries, nice

But yeah see what i mean when i say i think too long term, i tend to ignore recessions and economic issues, and just label them as the natural order

it wont happen while I'm alive then and probably not in my childrens life either

yay

I mean hopefully the cycle won't finish again

I think it can be broken

yea man like you think super long term