@Jeebus You're not supposed to, he's all word salad

Im a determinist

I'm a probabilist myself, tbh

@Jeebus wait you mean as oppposed to Free Will that's actually surprising I'm interested to hear more

Sapience, Will, and other high-end cognitive abilities are products of complex neural algorithms and probabilities of being able to work to create what we have coming through from a game of chance.

I'm a probabilist

Most of the ancaps I've come across cry for free will as if it's some sacred thing that is not simply the results of Adam's tumbling down the proverbial River of time

It's interesting to see one that's slightly different

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athens_Polytechnic_uprising

https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%95%CE%B8%CE%BD%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE_%CE%A5%CF%80%CE%B7%CF%81%CE%B5%CF%83%CE%AF%CE%B1_%CE%A0%CE%BB%CE%B7%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%86%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%B9%CF%8E%CE%BD

https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%95%CE%B8%CE%BD%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C_%CE%A3%CF%85%CE%BC%CE%B2%CE%BF%CF%8D%CE%BB%CE%B9%CE%BF_%CE%A1%CE%B1%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%BF%CF%84%CE%B7%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%8C%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%B7%CF%82

@ʀeaper What's the difference if I do not have the freedom to move?

It will just become a bordertarian society then

What do you mean

Bordertarians are hoppeans

dafuq is a bordertarian

Libertarians who like borders

???

TF do you enforce a universal border

I'm not sure what their justification is for it

But no I just want it all in private hands

Hoppeans are strange....

I kind of understand there justification but when deeply analized I think their logic falls apart in my opnion

like how tf do you enforce it.

Good will?

ok so the Hoppean would say that everyone that's been participating in the government system thus far has some stake in everything because there own tax dollars went to the creation and or up keep of various lands, roads, parks ect

so in absence the state these very same things people would have shares in like a corporation of sorts and just like you have a vested interest in what you own so to would you in all liklyhood want to protect these things through voluntary means

essently the Hoppean would expect people to voluntarily fund private border securty

Cool. What if i own part of the border and decide to let those people in?

or are they assuming no such thing as a sale

or no such thing as self interest

plus most people come in through airplanes

not via walking

that's why it falls apart when you really pick at it

GG @Terry Arcona, you just advanced to level 6!

Contracts? What if i don't sign it?

or are they assuming that everyone who happens to own that land

will happen to sign that contract

Yeah, this whole ideas pretty lacking of being thought through completely

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and where is this border you speak of?