Message from @Larbi

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2019-08-17 21:41:47 UTC  

You might

2019-08-17 21:41:50 UTC  

you might not

2019-08-17 21:41:52 UTC  

🤷

2019-08-17 21:42:05 UTC  

Well they have disproved the Abrahamic god's capacity for all-power, all-knowledge, all-mercy

2019-08-17 21:42:31 UTC  

with respect, that's word salad lol

2019-08-17 21:42:36 UTC  

I assume you're familiar with the 'god can't create a rock that he can't move'

2019-08-17 21:42:36 UTC  

There’s no evidence either way, so the logical assumption is to assume the negative as the negative side is passive. The active side has the burden of proof.

2019-08-17 21:42:44 UTC  

Right

2019-08-17 21:42:56 UTC  

And the passive side is that we don't know and shouldn't take it as fact, so it isn't worthy of humouring

2019-08-17 21:43:10 UTC  

Otherwise we'd pray to every magical being ever, do every irrational thing ever.

2019-08-17 21:43:12 UTC  

in a traditional argument, absolutely

2019-08-17 21:43:22 UTC  

this is a discussion about the existence of a deity lol

2019-08-17 21:43:25 UTC  

So?

2019-08-17 21:43:46 UTC  

The main issue with the existence of god is that it’s a spiritualistic argument. So the most logical position is agnosticism

2019-08-17 21:43:47 UTC  

Should I disregard every 'traditional argument' because it regards X thing I believe to be greater than the rest of NOT X things?

2019-08-17 21:44:21 UTC  

Most atheists in practice are agnostics who assume the negative rather than default

2019-08-17 21:44:22 UTC  

that's what I was trying to get at, thank you @wiping account (DM for more info

2019-08-17 21:44:27 UTC  

it's a pointless discussion

2019-08-17 21:44:27 UTC  

Yes, I never claim to disprove god...

2019-08-17 21:44:39 UTC  

no offense Romerlin :P

2019-08-17 21:44:50 UTC  

Don't try to weasle out big boi

2019-08-17 21:44:54 UTC  

It’s only pointless when both already realize that god can’t be proven

2019-08-17 21:44:59 UTC  

I claim to argue that worshipping god is ubsurd

2019-08-17 21:45:16 UTC  

Because it can’t be proven right?

2019-08-17 21:45:35 UTC  

Yes, it can't be proven or empirically shown so why should it be humoured?

2019-08-17 21:45:52 UTC  

if something can be neither proven or disproven, it follows that any assessment should be treated as an opinion

2019-08-17 21:46:06 UTC  

until absolute evidence is found to back up either side

2019-08-17 21:46:42 UTC  

Then I suppose I'm of the opinion that all Christians are brainwashed and the tooth fairy is sucking my dick on Tuesday. Perhaps I can point towards the sins of christian society?

2019-08-17 21:47:14 UTC  

Every society has sins, that'd be a waste of typing

2019-08-17 21:47:23 UTC  

Then why do the same of any idea?

2019-08-17 21:47:28 UTC  

some worse than others, a few horrendously worse

2019-08-17 21:47:36 UTC  

Why do the same for state socialists or even statism?

2019-08-17 21:47:48 UTC  

May I direct your attention to my PFP

2019-08-17 21:47:56 UTC  

Okay..?

2019-08-17 21:48:00 UTC  

That doesn't answer my question

2019-08-17 21:48:07 UTC  

I reject the state

2019-08-17 21:48:12 UTC  

Why should you?

2019-08-17 21:48:18 UTC  

if you can't point towards what they've done wrong?

2019-08-17 21:48:23 UTC  

it's an inherently violent institution

2019-08-17 21:48:28 UTC  

and I am not a violent person :P

2019-08-17 21:48:31 UTC  

you can't do that, that'd be a waste of typing