Message from @Boboh

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2019-08-17 23:06:54 UTC  

Why do you not worship Thor?

2019-08-17 23:07:58 UTC  

Is there some quality to the Bible, Quran and Torah that make them greater than the gospel of the mysterious tooth fairy?

2019-08-17 23:09:36 UTC  

If they are equal in value, this matters not if the value is 0. If they are equal in value and greater in value than 0 then you should hold all beliefs including the contrary; to which you bump into contradictions and should dispel these ideas to avoid contradictions. If they are equal in value and lesser in value than 0 then they all harm you and you should dispel them.

2019-08-17 23:10:50 UTC  

If you do not dispel these beliefs that must mean there is a value to them associated to you not equal to another, which I then question: why does this arise?

2019-08-17 23:14:39 UTC  

It must be socialised, perhaps it even contradicts with certain values and goals held as desirable by some of those with faith

2019-08-17 23:15:29 UTC  

And I of the antithesis will conflict in favour of my values of which in turn conflicts with the value-conflicting nature of these faithes.

2019-08-17 23:18:37 UTC  

@Wes The Savage There is no such thing as the "metaphysical". If it is part of reality, then we call it physical, and that's that.

If you want to toy with the idea of a "higher realm" that supposedly exist, that would still be physical, even if it follows physical laws different to the universe we are used to.

And if you say science cannot answer something, it is much more honest to say "we don't know", instead of just making stuff up, which is what all religions and "metaphysics" is about.

2019-08-17 23:19:31 UTC  

Issue is it doesn't even make stuff up consistently and bind it to goal or value which is what could validate it.

2019-08-17 23:20:06 UTC  

Instead it's peers try to either bind it to a false notion of 'common good' and 'morality' or try to bind it to the objective nature of the universe through the existence of a deity.

2019-08-17 23:42:15 UTC  

@Neoglitch17 Again, asserting something that's beyond sciences' reach is still invalid, that's not science, that's scientism, but beyond that, I don't disagree with your arguments.

2019-08-17 23:42:49 UTC  

Again, I'm playing neutral party here

2019-08-17 23:43:23 UTC  

Not saying to not dispell harmful beliefs or to blindly believe either, again, I'm playing neutral party, I just wanted to point out a couple things

2019-08-17 23:59:44 UTC  

@Wes The Savage If I understand you correctly, then metaphysics is scientism, because it's asserting stuff (without evidence) about things that science hasn't been able to reach yet.

To those things science hasn't been able to reach yet, the honest answer is "we don't know yet".

2019-08-18 00:00:03 UTC  

Actually it isn't scientism at all.

2019-08-18 00:01:19 UTC  

Asserting that something is just something that sciences haven't reached yet is bordering scientism.

Metaphysics is not scientism as it's built off of entirely different principles and ideas, please check the Wittgenstein article out, it goes into that pretty decently.

2019-08-18 00:01:50 UTC  

I have to go, a friend is picking me up to go somewhere

2019-08-18 07:10:41 UTC  

someone fucking help me im stuck with @some weeb rn and its 3 am so i cant leave for a while

2019-08-18 07:10:56 UTC  

also wut happening

2019-08-18 07:11:37 UTC  

Send proof

2019-08-18 07:11:41 UTC  

U here

2019-08-18 07:12:33 UTC  

fuck mate ur talkin to me rn

2019-08-18 07:13:24 UTC  

ur cousin playin gta while some catholic kid is fucking dead

2019-08-18 07:14:06 UTC  

Oh shit u right

2019-08-18 07:14:10 UTC  

🤔

2019-08-18 07:14:43 UTC  

not now sha

2019-08-18 07:15:31 UTC  

<a:peace:530091893485338635>

2019-08-18 09:26:33 UTC  

Is this an ancap server

2019-08-18 09:32:37 UTC  

Voluntarist server, we accept everyone tbh, but we seem to be pinned because ancaps agree with the position

2019-08-18 09:32:40 UTC  
2019-08-18 09:33:25 UTC  

i'm an ancap but i'm an lcu advocate.

2019-08-18 09:33:49 UTC  

What is lcu

2019-08-18 09:33:57 UTC  

A new political platform

2019-08-18 09:38:59 UTC  

@NO any questions?
Not up at this hour normally

2019-08-18 09:39:24 UTC  

I do not have any questions

2019-08-18 09:41:43 UTC  

Fair enough, hope you don’t assume something

2019-08-18 09:41:58 UTC  

Danke

2019-08-18 09:42:04 UTC  

<a:pepedance:539480664316051457> <:vol:612152059218755585> <a:pepedance:539480664316051457>

2019-08-18 09:42:17 UTC  

Welcome

2019-08-18 11:27:21 UTC  

Aye you a german boye @NO

2019-08-18 11:27:31 UTC  

sry for the ping

2019-08-18 11:27:38 UTC  

It's okay