And true, but not for all with those words

this is a common misconception many anarchists have

govern necessarily requires a state, or an authority

The language of the LCU is key to its success, so what if the words we use convince people to look at it open minded, and see how this gets what they wanted all along, even if the path is different then they foresaw

Authority being key

by definition, that's why I absolutely *never* use the word govern, or any of its derivatives

General manager is an authority high up on a business governance setup, states have given a bad name to governance

I can see that

but do not use, specifically, the word government

Blame involuntary governance, governance in itself isn’t bad, but neither is sex, when you force it though, both are bad

right, but why use the term at all

Because, I don’t want to have to design a new word to say what there is one for, govern, governing, governance, and then government has a bad name where the others are understood, that’s why, words have meaning, but most who feel that way use some wrong, use a umbrella term as a word with meaning, and take words like centrism and say it has meaning without two things to put it in between, or take it as inbetween two parties instead of not limiting yourself to one platform, instead individually looking at issues, like voluntarist tbh

Manage is a voluntary term that can be used in place of govern

Government implies top down authority

Centrist can be replaced, quite literally, with voluntaryist/voluntarist

He's using the name to draw people in

top down authority is not inherently bad, as long as it's voluntary

right, and I have a problem with that

As do I

well, I don't have a "problem" with it, per se

but I don't think it's necessary; if someone's interested in legitimate freedom, a *carrot and stick* shouldn't be necessary

Romerlin and Jonathon are trying to help reverse hard indoctrination, so the terms he uses are what they're used to

Hence why he has to use them

or they I mean

I understand 100%

Hence why he and Romerlin use them .

I'm just not willing to use manipulation to achieve my goals

What?

again, as long as it's all voluntary I'm fine with it

What terms do I use?

Whether it's bad or not is not up for question. We're concerning wherever it is coherent to a non-aggressive norm

GG @Larbi, you just advanced to level 6!

And that's fine

I use direct methods exclusively

Carrot-and-Stick is not my style, but it can be very effective

And I agree with you on this.

You lose when they support aggression

Even 'positive human interaction' is undefined and is a lure

if you can't reason someone away from thinking aggression is necessary, they're a lost cause

Wrong and 'let's throw punches' are different cases

Its more, my religion says so