Message from @johnfrum

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2017-09-08 10:13:04 UTC  

the somali district of malmo

2017-09-08 10:32:51 UTC  

Most of this chat is neets yeah?

2017-09-08 11:54:52 UTC  

Few gems are not

2017-09-08 11:54:57 UTC  

But yeah

2017-09-08 13:11:12 UTC  

pretty much

2017-09-09 02:10:13 UTC  

what if they are a cute chinese american mix

2017-09-09 02:10:39 UTC  

btw ur not neet if you go to school

2017-09-09 02:11:10 UTC  

Not in Education, Employment, or Training

2017-09-09 02:39:38 UTC  

I doubt much of /g/ is neet

2017-09-09 02:40:08 UTC  

most of /g/ has skills in one of the world's most demanded business

2017-09-09 02:40:36 UTC  

you hear every high tech company complain "we lack high skilled professionals"

2017-09-09 02:46:04 UTC  

You know they actually mean, 'the immigration system needs to let us import more indian code monkeys'

2017-09-09 02:49:26 UTC  

that's not correct. if you import the third world code monkeys, you have to pay them local salaries. no sane company wants to import them, and big international companies with a good reputation in tech, invest a lot of money in hiring good people. you want the code monkeys to stay where they are and do the cheap work remote

2017-09-09 02:50:38 UTC  

Dunno how it works in other countries but in the US they don't need to be paid local salaries.

2017-09-09 02:51:17 UTC  

the US has a minimum wage. Indians in India tend to earn below the US minimum wage

2017-09-09 02:52:09 UTC  

I work for a US company with almost 300k employees and I never saw an Indian in any IT related position

2017-09-09 02:53:01 UTC  

Oh, minimum wage thought you meant local salaries for the equivalent job

2017-09-09 02:53:06 UTC  

But we have an office in India, they have Indians and they do a lot of work where automatization would take too much effort

2017-09-09 02:53:16 UTC  

minimum wage was an extreme example

2017-09-09 02:53:32 UTC  

They earns bit more but way less than natives.

2017-09-09 02:54:24 UTC  

I suppose different companies do things differently but the cities around Silicon valley is pretty much little Delhi

2017-09-09 02:54:54 UTC  

maybe they actually are high skilled?

2017-09-09 02:55:06 UTC  

I mean just think business

2017-09-09 02:56:08 UTC  

Some are but most are just code fodder, people complain all the time about poorly written code from H1B visa holders here.

2017-09-09 03:07:04 UTC  
2017-09-09 03:53:36 UTC  

those statistics are often problematic

2017-09-09 03:55:47 UTC  

take me as an example, I'm a foreigner in Switzerland and I make roughly 120k / year. now the average income of Switzerland is about 60k / year. Living with 60k in Switzerland is comfy enough to have a good home, food and occasional travel. So I'd rather only work 2.5 days / week and make just 60k, but then my residence permit doesn't get extended because I'm a foreigner

2017-09-09 03:56:20 UTC  

and you will find a lot of statistics about how foreigners in Switzerland make more than locals because of such effects

2017-09-09 03:57:03 UTC  

and I believe that many countries require you to be full time employed to have a permit to stay

2017-09-09 04:36:58 UTC  

Is cost of living really high in switzerland or just some cities?

2017-09-09 05:00:48 UTC  

@porco are you actually a foreigner in Switzerland?

2017-09-09 05:03:05 UTC  

@Deleted User I actually am

2017-09-09 05:03:32 UTC  

Where do you hold citizenship

2017-09-09 05:03:38 UTC  

@sludge everything related to human interaction on demand (services) is very expensive, the rest (products) is "OK"

2017-09-09 05:03:45 UTC  

@Deleted User Italy and Germany

2017-09-09 05:03:58 UTC  

Was it hard to get a visa and work permit?

2017-09-09 05:04:19 UTC  

no, just get a working contract and apply for it

2017-09-09 05:04:27 UTC  

I see

2017-09-09 05:04:30 UTC  

How is it there

2017-09-09 05:04:44 UTC  

peaceful kek

2017-09-09 05:04:54 UTC  

the whole country is a bit boring but super calm