Message from @Deleted User

Discord ID: 358083209055043594


2017-09-15 02:44:20 UTC  

no doubt they are trying to centalize it

2017-09-15 02:44:43 UTC  

Segwit ---> Lightning Network which is a path towards centralization

2017-09-15 02:46:21 UTC  

```Hey this is Zee, I am founder of Space Chain. We have already finish building our first satellite with Qtum and it is welded on rocket and ready for launch soon. We believe satellite nodes add a new dimension of diversity of nodes and make the system more decentralized. Current blockchain technology applications use computer as nodes and adopt ground-network-based transmission channel. The singular network and singular node pose great security risks. Once node computer or transmission network is under attack, the entire blockchain network may be greatly impacted . Therefore, from a security perspective, blockchain needs to have diversified transmission networks and nodes with multiple data storages to enhance system safety and security. It will be connected with ground station to receive/use data, and there are also IOT testing devices. On the first satellite, we creatively use Raspberry Pi to run the Qtum test node. It will the first time that Raspberry got brought to space. In future, what hardware we have on the satellite will be dependent on what kind of services it provides. As I said, the first satellite is finished and welded on the rocket. We expect the first satellite will be launched later this year. If everything goes well, we will have 4-8 satellites up there at the end of 2018.
```

2017-09-15 02:47:29 UTC  

Isn't it just a transfer node? If they aren't doing any mining I don't see how this would affect decentralization or why it's worse than what Qtum is doing.

2017-09-15 02:48:06 UTC  

the satellite project was managed/funded whatever by them

2017-09-15 02:48:09 UTC  

thats unrelated

2017-09-15 02:49:07 UTC  

Blockstream as a corporation is funded by Mastercard I believe

2017-09-15 02:49:26 UTC  

~50% of Core devs are employed by Blockstream

2017-09-15 02:49:38 UTC  

they have a dangerous amount of control over the future of Bitcoin

2017-09-15 02:49:54 UTC  

```Mastercard is an investor in Digital Currency Group, the DCG brokers the deal to implement Segwit2X, segwit is a Blockstream baby pushed by Adam Back.```

2017-09-15 02:50:08 UTC  

Segwit is making way for Lightning Network

2017-09-15 02:50:20 UTC  

which will centralize Bitcoin

2017-09-15 02:50:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248100475054850050/358082205769007105/unknown.png

2017-09-15 02:51:18 UTC  

off-chain bitcoin is scary

2017-09-15 02:51:30 UTC  

it's also less secure

2017-09-15 02:52:52 UTC  

```Just the circumstantial evidence, they are building a banking layer on top of bitcoin. And demand to use it is expected to be enhanced by limiting on chain transactions.
```

2017-09-15 02:54:12 UTC  

Ah, understand now. So is this going to actually gain traction or will people against LN be ignored as normies go for the less secure but slightly easier option backed by a large company?

2017-09-15 02:54:49 UTC  

crypto normies and staunch anti-Cashers/pro-Core folks will defend LN viciously

2017-09-15 02:55:11 UTC  

I used to be pro segwit and anti cash but now im seeing this and it is scary

2017-09-15 02:55:29 UTC  

segwit is good but what it helps make possible is not

2017-09-15 02:55:49 UTC  

I fear that we will venture into an ERC-20 ecosystem and a Segwit/LN-ecosystem

2017-09-15 02:55:59 UTC  

qtum pls moon

2017-09-15 02:56:48 UTC  
2017-09-15 02:56:52 UTC  

big money, do you want their dick in your Bitcoin Core/

2017-09-15 02:58:01 UTC  

I honestly see less reason to trust Qtum than BtC

2017-09-15 02:59:41 UTC  

yeah qtum is funded by big gook money

2017-09-15 02:59:48 UTC  

i just dont like Ethereum

2017-09-15 02:59:56 UTC  

because of Vitalik and how retarded he is

2017-09-15 03:00:07 UTC  

also his platform sucks ass

2017-09-15 03:00:52 UTC  

non-existient scaling, another hardfork incoming (casper), high fees for moving tokens, not a store of value -- has a high value

2017-09-15 03:00:58 UTC  

censorship

2017-09-15 03:01:09 UTC  

mutibility

2017-09-15 03:02:44 UTC  

Wonder if there is going to be another platform like early bitcoin.

2017-09-15 03:02:58 UTC  

He'll, I wonder if people would even use it, fucking normies, I swear

2017-09-15 03:03:47 UTC  

bitcoin is literally unusable

2017-09-15 03:04:43 UTC  

once we get into working decentralized exchanges and shit like 0x or even LN Atomic Swaps we can start seeing real world usage

2017-09-15 03:05:08 UTC  

"Oh, I accept ARK payments"

2017-09-15 03:05:19 UTC  

"ok, let me swap my Bitbean for Ark"