Message from @johnfrum

Discord ID: 358081363687243776


2017-09-15 02:39:03 UTC  

TRIG is running a fork of their Network (could be better (on-chain), but its good publicity)

2017-09-15 02:39:10 UTC  

17 ICOs coming up

2017-09-15 02:39:27 UTC  

working with app developers and mobile networks

2017-09-15 02:39:35 UTC  

(in korea or singapore...idk)

2017-09-15 02:39:57 UTC  

they have a running mainnet, switch of the tokens soon (october)

2017-09-15 02:40:28 UTC  

the Qtum satellite is welded to a rocket and is ready to go up into space soon(tm)

2017-09-15 02:41:27 UTC  

...i have not been keeping up with crypto if there is a fucking satellite I didn't know about

2017-09-15 02:41:55 UTC  

Blockstream (funded by AXA, Mastercard, it's a scam) set up and launched

2017-09-15 02:42:02 UTC  

a Bitcoin sat node thing

2017-09-15 02:42:31 UTC  

qtum and trig are both going to be on satellite

2017-09-15 02:43:36 UTC  

How is the bloodstream sat a scam?

2017-09-15 02:43:50 UTC  

Blockstream as a corporation is sketchy af

2017-09-15 02:43:55 UTC  

the satellite is legit

2017-09-15 02:44:08 UTC  

just be wary of their activities within bitcoin

2017-09-15 02:44:20 UTC  

no doubt they are trying to centalize it

2017-09-15 02:44:43 UTC  

Segwit ---> Lightning Network which is a path towards centralization

2017-09-15 02:46:21 UTC  

```Hey this is Zee, I am founder of Space Chain. We have already finish building our first satellite with Qtum and it is welded on rocket and ready for launch soon. We believe satellite nodes add a new dimension of diversity of nodes and make the system more decentralized. Current blockchain technology applications use computer as nodes and adopt ground-network-based transmission channel. The singular network and singular node pose great security risks. Once node computer or transmission network is under attack, the entire blockchain network may be greatly impacted . Therefore, from a security perspective, blockchain needs to have diversified transmission networks and nodes with multiple data storages to enhance system safety and security. It will be connected with ground station to receive/use data, and there are also IOT testing devices. On the first satellite, we creatively use Raspberry Pi to run the Qtum test node. It will the first time that Raspberry got brought to space. In future, what hardware we have on the satellite will be dependent on what kind of services it provides. As I said, the first satellite is finished and welded on the rocket. We expect the first satellite will be launched later this year. If everything goes well, we will have 4-8 satellites up there at the end of 2018.
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2017-09-15 02:47:29 UTC  

Isn't it just a transfer node? If they aren't doing any mining I don't see how this would affect decentralization or why it's worse than what Qtum is doing.

2017-09-15 02:48:06 UTC  

the satellite project was managed/funded whatever by them

2017-09-15 02:48:09 UTC  

thats unrelated

2017-09-15 02:49:07 UTC  

Blockstream as a corporation is funded by Mastercard I believe

2017-09-15 02:49:26 UTC  

~50% of Core devs are employed by Blockstream

2017-09-15 02:49:38 UTC  

they have a dangerous amount of control over the future of Bitcoin

2017-09-15 02:49:54 UTC  

```Mastercard is an investor in Digital Currency Group, the DCG brokers the deal to implement Segwit2X, segwit is a Blockstream baby pushed by Adam Back.```

2017-09-15 02:50:08 UTC  

Segwit is making way for Lightning Network

2017-09-15 02:50:20 UTC  

which will centralize Bitcoin

2017-09-15 02:50:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248100475054850050/358082205769007105/unknown.png

2017-09-15 02:51:18 UTC  

off-chain bitcoin is scary

2017-09-15 02:51:30 UTC  

it's also less secure

2017-09-15 02:52:52 UTC  

```Just the circumstantial evidence, they are building a banking layer on top of bitcoin. And demand to use it is expected to be enhanced by limiting on chain transactions.
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2017-09-15 02:54:12 UTC  

Ah, understand now. So is this going to actually gain traction or will people against LN be ignored as normies go for the less secure but slightly easier option backed by a large company?

2017-09-15 02:54:49 UTC  

crypto normies and staunch anti-Cashers/pro-Core folks will defend LN viciously

2017-09-15 02:55:11 UTC  

I used to be pro segwit and anti cash but now im seeing this and it is scary

2017-09-15 02:55:29 UTC  

segwit is good but what it helps make possible is not

2017-09-15 02:55:49 UTC  

I fear that we will venture into an ERC-20 ecosystem and a Segwit/LN-ecosystem

2017-09-15 02:55:59 UTC  

qtum pls moon

2017-09-15 02:56:48 UTC