Message from @plasticsword

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2018-04-02 06:35:17 UTC  

how hackable do you think these are

2018-04-02 07:11:20 UTC  

@ChairmanKaga software engineers in Taiwan get roughly the same salary as in Germany. On one side, you have shit working conditions (7 days off / year) but on the other hand, the living costs are around 60 % of what they are in Germany. So you have a shit ton of money

2018-04-02 07:13:28 UTC  

The thing is the native language stuff. in Germany, most employers will take non German speaking software engineers if they can speak English. In Taiwan, it doesn't work because most people, even people in software, don't speak English. I had so many interviews in major Taiwanese companies and it always ended up like "please learn Chinese and come again". Even the big international companies

2018-04-02 07:14:17 UTC  

But the salaries are really not bad. Most employers write it on the job ad

2018-04-02 07:15:15 UTC  

1.3 - 1.5 kk ntd / year are usual for a developer in Taiwan

2018-04-02 07:15:35 UTC  

Which is also the usual German salary

2018-04-02 08:09:54 UTC  

Was talking to my aunt who lives in Denmark yesterday and holy shit they get 6 weeks off yearly

2018-04-02 08:10:07 UTC  

Was mindblown

2018-04-02 08:28:09 UTC  

What's so special about that?

2018-04-02 09:50:49 UTC  

Ohh got it.

2018-04-02 09:58:29 UTC  

6 weeks is a lot even for European standards. 5 is the usual. In the beginning when 5 became usual, I thought it was a lot, now, I can't really get along with just 5 weeks and aggressively accumulate overtime to make it 6-7

2018-04-02 09:58:58 UTC  

one week is pretty usual for most of Asia, no idea how they get along with that

2018-04-02 09:59:57 UTC  

also they're pretty strict on working times. From what I saw, most companies won't give you flexible working hours. Also overtime compensation is (at least in Taiwan) not guaranteed (although most international companies do compensate overtime)

2018-04-02 10:00:45 UTC  

But for example I know that at SuperMicro in Taiwan, your overtime goes straight to /dev/null

2018-04-02 10:00:59 UTC  

You are supposed to work 40 hours per week and if you do more, that's your problem

2018-04-02 10:01:33 UTC  

@Julian Same here in Norway

2018-04-02 10:02:11 UTC  

6 weeks is usual in Norway?

2018-04-02 10:02:58 UTC  

5 weeks is the normal, but 6 weeks is not uncommon

2018-04-02 10:03:15 UTC  

Many companies give one week extra to attract employees

2018-04-02 11:45:47 UTC  

taiwan is a beautiful place

2018-04-02 11:45:57 UTC  

it's what china should've been

2018-04-02 11:46:07 UTC  

why didn't the republic of china win?7

2018-04-02 12:47:39 UTC  

Because the people were unhappy and the communists quickly gained the necessary power

2018-04-02 13:25:18 UTC  

And kill the opposition

2018-04-03 14:13:23 UTC  

@plasticsword can you confirm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/248100475054850050/430731545729433600/lrNHGbS.png

2018-04-03 14:14:24 UTC  

Or anyone here who lived in china

2018-04-03 14:15:53 UTC  

I never learnt mandarin so I don't know shit about that

2018-04-03 14:17:02 UTC  

Never get anything from a chinese manufacturer unless they have some sort of reputation

2018-04-03 14:17:39 UTC  

Yes

2018-04-03 14:18:18 UTC  

Iirc this wasn't surprising to anyone who lived in mainland china

2018-04-03 14:21:17 UTC  

@Julian got it. Definitely not gonna learn Mandarin then.

2018-04-03 14:23:53 UTC  

Learn Korean become a white token guy <:alismirk:230784726615588865>

2018-04-03 14:30:29 UTC  

dealing with these people while not knowing mandarin is worst though

2018-04-03 14:31:21 UTC  

yeah but if I don't know mandarin I have an excuse not to @plasticsword

2018-04-03 14:38:25 UTC  

@Sdeck37 what's a white token guy

2018-04-03 14:38:51 UTC  

and why korean instead of japanese, isn't japan bigger and less scummy?

2018-04-03 14:39:09 UTC  

The same as a black token guy in the west

2018-04-03 14:40:47 UTC  

You see them mostly in tech giant advertisements. The wage is shit though.

2018-04-03 14:41:49 UTC  

screw that, I can't be fucked about idols or kpop @Sdeck37

2018-04-03 14:42:01 UTC  

I think I'll try japanese

2018-04-03 14:42:16 UTC  

>I'll try