Message from @DJ_Anuz

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2019-05-30 08:19:02 UTC  

Has yang said he would get rid of the minimum wage with UBI?

2019-05-30 08:39:17 UTC  

I've not seen that, and its not likely as he also would still keep the welfare state (tho i do also, but with more limits).

2019-05-30 10:23:54 UTC  

I think I rather have the $1k/month UBI with no minimum wage compared to what we have now

2019-05-30 10:56:33 UTC  

I thought the idea was to largely replace the existing welfare system with UBI, but I could be misremembering that. Also, I have extreme doubts the old welfare would ever go away

2019-05-30 13:09:26 UTC  

Yang doesn't want to get rid of any of the current welfare state, he actually wants to add single payer healthcare. He says you have to opt for either regular welfare or UBI depending on if you would make more money one way or another but that wouldn't really cut welfare. Based on his other ideas he probably doesn't want to cut minimum wage

2019-05-30 13:14:26 UTC  

Yang explains that if someone is getting $750 in welfare already they'll only get $250 more under his little ubi plan thing

2019-05-30 13:21:22 UTC  

Yeah. So basically bankrupt the government.

2019-05-30 13:28:00 UTC  

Hyperinflation here we come

2019-05-30 13:48:03 UTC  

Honestly Yang just seems like a less dillusional Bernie to me.

UBI will become necisarry at some point in human development, but that will only be after a massive threshold of AI jobs are reached. I don't think we're even close.

I wouldn't be surprised if AI ends up creating more jobs after an adjustment period.

2019-05-30 13:49:04 UTC  

There's likely gonna be more jobs

2019-05-30 13:49:24 UTC  

and if there wasn't a minimum wage AI wouldn't be implemented
on everything

2019-05-30 13:51:44 UTC  

I don’t think ubi will ever be necessary.

2019-05-30 13:51:54 UTC  

New jobs will be created.

2019-05-30 13:52:01 UTC  

Because we'll all be ded

2019-05-30 13:52:07 UTC  

HELLFIRE

2019-05-30 13:52:15 UTC  

DESIRE

2019-05-30 13:52:58 UTC  

THIS BURNING IN MY SKIIIINNN

2019-05-30 13:53:02 UTC  

@Salacious Swanky Cat when AI can self replicate and can emulate or replace human ingenuity we will reach a point where UBI will be needed.

I doubt that will be in our generation.

2019-05-30 13:53:26 UTC  

Or our children's children.

2019-05-30 13:55:34 UTC  

I think the minimum wage should be entirely abolished. Let people learn that they can negotiate for their wages.

Minimum wage also fosters a sense of entitlement to a certain income.

2019-05-30 14:51:20 UTC  

Worse still is a real solution exists, but litterally nobody wants to hear it. 😒

2019-05-30 14:52:22 UTC  

Which real solution

2019-05-30 14:55:16 UTC  

Alternatives to gasoline.

2019-05-30 14:56:26 UTC  

Okay

2019-05-30 14:56:31 UTC  

a solution to which problem ? lol

2019-05-30 15:03:57 UTC  

The solution to the minimum wage problem is not too raise minimum wages endlessly (and often fecklessly), but to develop alternatives to gasoline and deisel fuels for automotive use.

2019-05-30 15:04:03 UTC  

Happy now?

2019-05-30 15:17:07 UTC  

I'm afraid i don't understand

2019-05-30 15:17:39 UTC  

the solution to the minimum wage problem is to change nothing except use electric cars instead of what we're using now?

2019-05-30 15:26:55 UTC  

... ¿Did I say *anything* about electric?

2019-05-30 15:38:38 UTC  

No, but that's the alternative we've got

2019-05-30 15:38:46 UTC  

which alternative would you like? Hydrogen?

2019-05-30 15:40:01 UTC  

If not hydrogen then which one would you prefer?

And how does using alternative fuels for automobiles remove the need for minimum wage or UBI?

2019-05-30 15:40:31 UTC  

I wish I could post pics

2019-05-30 15:40:48 UTC  

But minus the meme....my answer is working on battery tech

2019-05-30 15:41:39 UTC  

The solution to minimum wage is to abolish the minimum wage, heavily restrict immigration, repatriate all illegals and encourage people to live near their extended families.

2019-05-30 15:41:47 UTC  

^

2019-05-30 15:42:36 UTC  

I don't see how alternative fuels for automobiles fixes anything other than temporarily making it a little cheaper to fuel your vehicle and/or reduce climate change etc.

2019-05-30 15:43:35 UTC  

But I'd like to hear his explanation

2019-05-30 15:44:12 UTC  

I don't know which problem he thinks "alternatives to gasoline" are a solution to