Message from @Mandatory Carry
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Gotta stay fresh
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called a cunt over 10,000 times - that's cuz she is a cunt
^that's how I got banned from Twitter
They definitely deserved it though.
facts is facts and twitter can't have facts on its platform
Facts.
Only emotion, degeneracy, and autistic screeching.
If you're lucky, all three at the same time.
you don't need luck. it's like that 99% of the time
@Shadows my point was on the argument of using UBI to provide $ but doesnt resolve the social issues of mass unemployment. Coupling UBI with removing minimum wage would both ensure people have sustainable income while giving people a price competitive advantage vs automation
Yang hasn't said to get rid of minimum wage but he did say he wouldn't raise minimum wage
The idea of a UBI is to simplify wealth redistribution by remkving means testing associated with other programs
The fix for housing prices is to increase the interest rates substantially
At this rate, it seems auto maintenance and gas prices can be easier fixed through self driving cars and rideshares
Self driving cars could potentially coordinate to cut down on driving wastes like over acceleration, excessive breaking, traffic distribution, etc
Rideshare capability will allow cars to be used more efficiently (less cars sitting. In garages 22 hours a day)
@Putz I asked because you said it was a counter to the video (i've not seen the video), but if it does not in fact change the minimum wage how is that a counter? It might be a good idea or not, but that doesn't mean it will happen, so its not really a counter. I myself don't like the idea of a UBI, but i'm not unwilling to listen to good arguments.
Some of the above chat i went though was painful to read.... lol
In the video she states that UBI does not resolve the social impact of mass unemployment. Which she and Joe Rogan are correct about. What they ignore however is that UBI removes the demand for a minimum wage. So if they packaged UBI with a minimum wage cut/removal it could in fact help with the mass unemployment issue
But what if it doesn't (as its not likely to do so).
Doesn't what?
Lets say you could make a great plan for UBI that included reducing or removing minimum wage all together. But after using your plan we still have the same minimum wage and it keeps growing (as this is the most likely case to happen). What would you do with UBI then, still keep it?
@Shadows UBI is immoral, the point was the gap in the argument that could be used by UBI supporters
UBI is one method to buy peace from the populace, one glarring hole in that solution is it does not address the social issues related to mass unemployment
I am very sympathetic to mass unemployment (as it normally causes a lot of pain and death), but i don't see it happening as soon as many people who are worried about it claim.
Until we have servator Android's that can do everything we can, include innovate, I like the idea of not redistributing wealth.
My point was the argument for UBI is the fear of mass automation which leads to mass unemployment. Automation is the result of lower capital cost to automate than its human competitor because of wage inflation. Wage inflation comes from minimum wages in low skill workers (and increased demand in. High skill workers). UBI does not count as a wage and therefore gives humans a cost advantage over automation which could slow automation
Maybe. But I don’t think it’ll actually work that way.
@Putz Yes, i know your point (tho i don't think mass automation is really the main reason people are pushing UBI, but it could be), but like Sal said. I don't see it happening that way.
UBI is a sham.
I've not seen a good argument for it. But i can't dismiss it outright.
I can... It's welfare by another name. It's as inept and incompetent as 99% of the other programs (including the only one built by and for national defense programs).
Worse it will lead to more program, eventually diminishing it's own value, requiring another raise in the program, inevitably becoming another self-destroying "feel good, do harm" program.
Citation: Nicolló MACHIAVELLI.
welfare is an obligatory step in a civilization's decline