I wouldn't absolve anyone from that situation wholly (other then the child). But i merely spoke to what the author failure to understanding that its not a beneficial situation for everyone involved. And its sad she fools herself in thinking its such.

Oh yeah for sure. I don’t ever think that people believe what they post on social media. It’s all an attempt to get approval for doing something bad and convince yourself it isn’t actually bad

As for me, i often will place blame more on the women. Because most often men will just want someone to love and provide for. And we have created a society that allows that to happen less often, so men will often just try to find what they can get unfortunately (or just walk away all together). So if you understand that's what a man wants, its would be abusive to just pull them along.

I place blame squarely on both adults. The woman for leading this poor cuck around by the dick and the man for being such a contemptible cuck that he will consent to raising another man's child without even requiring sexual access and romantic attachment.

One is sinning by selfishness, the other by passivity. It's a man's responsibility to have a strong enough character not to fall into this kind of trap.

@uncephalized I don't disagree with everything you said. But that also plays into part of our problem with society today.

Yes, I agree. This kind of character weakness is rampant today.

That's not what i mean.

Then by all means elaborate.

The responsibility to fix this issue can not just come from strong men. Or we will never get anywhere.

Oh, I think it's also the woman's responsibility 1) not to be a cockteasing ho, 2) to prioritize the creation of children and 3) to be the primary caregiver to the children at least through their formative years.

Didn't mean to imply the burden is *all* on the men but I do think leadership/stewardship of responsibility is naturally the masculine role.

I think women respond with virtue toward men who approach them with strength, and with wickedness to men who approach them with weakness.

Case in point this chick.

But our society might well be so broken right now that a lot of women won't be virtuous no matter what the men do.

Certainly possible.

(Just fyi I will come back to this bit I'm just about to jump in the car)

That's a classic

That’s ridiculous

It’s like they are admitting that trump has resolved the Middle East

Or that they want war in the Middle East

America fighting Mexico makes more sense than fighting in the Middle East. At least those countries are next to each other and directly affect each other. It just shows you what the Jew York Times really thinks. American men shouldn't be protecting the countries boarders, they should be fighting an unnecessary war for Israel. Fucking %%%£%£%^&£$%& I hate the Fucking New York Times *%&^£$^@@23

It was great for 2 reasons: they used the word "enroll" instead of "enlist" and implied that American troops would rather fight in the middle east than at their own border

Maybe not even implied, they just straight up said that.

I think they got ratio'd pretty hard for that one

I don't know what's the problem guys, why do you want to fight.

We should just let everyone in.....

borders are rassism

@Nucleon if you haven't realized that Donald Trump is our last Republican president, you're not paying attention.

That's what people said about Bush.......

The Leftist media may have said that about Bush, but the demographics are saying it about Trump. We'll see. Whether or not we ever have one again will depend on Trump's actions.

It wasn't just the leftist media, it was people on the right as well.

Why were they saying it?

And in any case a party can be co-opted. We'll never have a conservative in there. Good thing we have the SCOTUS I suppose

Because every point in history has has its own hysterical fear-mongers.

I think people will finally start to see it when Texas and Florida flip blue

@Agent Smith 'Florida teen' just one step below 'Florida man' lol

California used to be red

Things change...

Yeah there's oscillation, but there are also persistent trends that have not reversed