Message from @uncephalized
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If you don't like the America system, is there a country that currently exists that you do like? Or that you would reference for an example what a good nation should strive for?
Hmm. How can there be more than one people within a nation at all, if the nation is the people?
An empire can incorporate multiple nations, as the United Kingdom is comprised of four countries
Or that doesn't exist anymore I spose
I believe the American Constitution is the most refined document of political law to date
I sense a but coming
haha
Ok. Maybe I see. So a just empire is a coalition of nations cooperating toward a shared political vision?
We're in need of some Amendments, of course
Yes
Ok. Goose has been appointed Imperator of the Constitutional Convention of 2025. What Amendments does he propose?
The establishment of the Clerical Congress as the 4th Branch of Government, with the power of petition as a means of forcing executive orders for the social health of the nations.
That one is going to need some unpacking.
Oh hell yeah it is
if you have a moment
What's your opinion on EU?
@uncephalized you can answer too
Too big, too centralized. Suffering from some of the same ills the US has but failing faster because Europe writ large has less shared heritage than the vestiges of the US.
I don't understand it well enough to have a complete opinion, but the basic idea of a political association based on shared ethnolinguistic & religious heritage is not unreasonable, so long as it recognizes that the source of it's validity and it's necessary aims should be the aforementioned criteria.
And their preservation
I think there is a problem generally with trying to merge your political baskets too big. When we only have the one planet it's not a stable solution to have political entities the scale of whole continents.
Not at all
It's the too big to fail problem in the political sphere.
Solution. Populate Mars
how far are we going in ensuring cohesive "ethnolinguistic and religious heritage", and how small do you expect those groupings to be?
Populate lots of places, yes.
Planets are actually the worst places to start @Clive if we want to expand into space. I'm all about O'Neill cylinders.
Just fill up the solar system with trillions of people living in giant tubes. Much easier than terraforming.
Every region of the world will inevitably be unique. In Europe, a European is a fair-skinned Indo-European-speaking Christian, with limited though clearly delineated exeptions.
Is that like a Dyson sphere?
No. It's a cylindrical habitat miles across that rotates to provide artificial gravity.
"Fair-skinned" by global standards. I'm no anti-Med
So like a Dyson sphere
Although enough of them around the Sun would make a Dyson swarm
Oooo are we talkiing about superstructures now?
No, a Dyson sphere encapsulates a whole star.
thats fairly broad if we're trying to preserve heritage, no?
it seems like an arbitrary level to stop at
A single O'Neill cylinder is waaaaaaay tinier.
What's an O'Neill Cylinder?
The whole idea of a Dyson sphere as a single solid shell is unattainable anyway, we dont have materials that could do that.