Message from @uncephalized

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2019-07-12 05:58:49 UTC  

If you don't like the America system, is there a country that currently exists that you do like? Or that you would reference for an example what a good nation should strive for?

2019-07-12 05:58:55 UTC  

Hmm. How can there be more than one people within a nation at all, if the nation is the people?

2019-07-12 05:59:24 UTC  

An empire can incorporate multiple nations, as the United Kingdom is comprised of four countries

2019-07-12 05:59:25 UTC  

Or that doesn't exist anymore I spose

2019-07-12 06:00:02 UTC  

I believe the American Constitution is the most refined document of political law to date

2019-07-12 06:00:22 UTC  

I sense a but coming

2019-07-12 06:00:27 UTC  

haha

2019-07-12 06:00:31 UTC  

Ok. Maybe I see. So a just empire is a coalition of nations cooperating toward a shared political vision?

2019-07-12 06:00:43 UTC  

We're in need of some Amendments, of course

2019-07-12 06:00:51 UTC  

Yes

2019-07-12 06:01:38 UTC  

Ok. Goose has been appointed Imperator of the Constitutional Convention of 2025. What Amendments does he propose?

2019-07-12 06:02:45 UTC  

The establishment of the Clerical Congress as the 4th Branch of Government, with the power of petition as a means of forcing executive orders for the social health of the nations.

2019-07-12 06:03:13 UTC  

That one is going to need some unpacking.

2019-07-12 06:03:23 UTC  

Oh hell yeah it is

2019-07-12 06:03:34 UTC  

if you have a moment

2019-07-12 06:03:38 UTC  

What's your opinion on EU?

2019-07-12 06:04:18 UTC  

@uncephalized you can answer too

2019-07-12 06:05:11 UTC  

Too big, too centralized. Suffering from some of the same ills the US has but failing faster because Europe writ large has less shared heritage than the vestiges of the US.

2019-07-12 06:05:39 UTC  

I don't understand it well enough to have a complete opinion, but the basic idea of a political association based on shared ethnolinguistic & religious heritage is not unreasonable, so long as it recognizes that the source of it's validity and it's necessary aims should be the aforementioned criteria.

2019-07-12 06:05:58 UTC  

And their preservation

2019-07-12 06:06:34 UTC  

I think there is a problem generally with trying to merge your political baskets too big. When we only have the one planet it's not a stable solution to have political entities the scale of whole continents.

2019-07-12 06:06:52 UTC  

Not at all

2019-07-12 06:07:04 UTC  

It's the too big to fail problem in the political sphere.

2019-07-12 06:08:09 UTC  

Solution. Populate Mars

2019-07-12 06:08:20 UTC  

how far are we going in ensuring cohesive "ethnolinguistic and religious heritage", and how small do you expect those groupings to be?

2019-07-12 06:08:20 UTC  

Populate lots of places, yes.

2019-07-12 06:08:59 UTC  

Planets are actually the worst places to start @Clive if we want to expand into space. I'm all about O'Neill cylinders.

2019-07-12 06:09:40 UTC  

Just fill up the solar system with trillions of people living in giant tubes. Much easier than terraforming.

2019-07-12 06:09:49 UTC  

Every region of the world will inevitably be unique. In Europe, a European is a fair-skinned Indo-European-speaking Christian, with limited though clearly delineated exeptions.

2019-07-12 06:09:52 UTC  

Is that like a Dyson sphere?

2019-07-12 06:10:21 UTC  

No. It's a cylindrical habitat miles across that rotates to provide artificial gravity.

2019-07-12 06:10:33 UTC  

"Fair-skinned" by global standards. I'm no anti-Med

2019-07-12 06:10:34 UTC  

So like a Dyson sphere

2019-07-12 06:10:44 UTC  

Although enough of them around the Sun would make a Dyson swarm

2019-07-12 06:11:00 UTC  

Oooo are we talkiing about superstructures now?

2019-07-12 06:11:02 UTC  

No, a Dyson sphere encapsulates a whole star.

2019-07-12 06:11:10 UTC  

thats fairly broad if we're trying to preserve heritage, no?

2019-07-12 06:11:16 UTC  

it seems like an arbitrary level to stop at

2019-07-12 06:11:22 UTC  

A single O'Neill cylinder is waaaaaaay tinier.

2019-07-12 06:11:48 UTC  

What's an O'Neill Cylinder?

2019-07-12 06:12:02 UTC  

The whole idea of a Dyson sphere as a single solid shell is unattainable anyway, we dont have materials that could do that.