Message from @Clive
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I agree that is what we are already doing functionally.
No, but inevitably more competent people will be more influential than less competent people. Still, a policy that places a race or nation in an inherently superior or dominant position over any other race or nation is unjust. We are all equal before God.
So how does that square with an Empire?
Empire is an administrative schematic
Isn't the whole idea of empire to expand and subjugate neighboring nations?
Otherwise it would just be a monarchy.
I don't have the answer to that. If history teaches us anything, it's that empires are subject to the fickleness of their rulers, and often expansion halts for long periods of time, if not devolving into gradual atomization as we've more-or-less observed in Europe for 1500 years
I don't advocate monarchic empire
Nor would I burn the American system to the ground
Empire is about vision.
Right, in practice empires reach a point of maximum influence, but it seems like generally the idea of them is to establish dominance over other nations and force them to serve.
How so?
If a nation is about the people, and it is unjust to place one people above another...
I just don't see how these ideas fit together.
It is unjust to place one people above another in privilige or cultural clout _within the nation of the subjected._
If you don't like the America system, is there a country that currently exists that you do like? Or that you would reference for an example what a good nation should strive for?
Hmm. How can there be more than one people within a nation at all, if the nation is the people?
An empire can incorporate multiple nations, as the United Kingdom is comprised of four countries
I believe the American Constitution is the most refined document of political law to date
I sense a but coming
haha
Ok. Maybe I see. So a just empire is a coalition of nations cooperating toward a shared political vision?
We're in need of some Amendments, of course
Yes
Ok. Goose has been appointed Imperator of the Constitutional Convention of 2025. What Amendments does he propose?
The establishment of the Clerical Congress as the 4th Branch of Government, with the power of petition as a means of forcing executive orders for the social health of the nations.
That one is going to need some unpacking.
Oh hell yeah it is
if you have a moment
What's your opinion on EU?
@uncephalized you can answer too
Too big, too centralized. Suffering from some of the same ills the US has but failing faster because Europe writ large has less shared heritage than the vestiges of the US.
I don't understand it well enough to have a complete opinion, but the basic idea of a political association based on shared ethnolinguistic & religious heritage is not unreasonable, so long as it recognizes that the source of it's validity and it's necessary aims should be the aforementioned criteria.
And their preservation
I think there is a problem generally with trying to merge your political baskets too big. When we only have the one planet it's not a stable solution to have political entities the scale of whole continents.
Not at all
It's the too big to fail problem in the political sphere.
Solution. Populate Mars