Message from @grant
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They seem to think Africa will be very profitable. But they also don’t have much concern for human rights so that tends to allow them to keep costs low
China going to learn the lesson the hardway
to be fair those countries also don't care about human rights
I, like most americans, could care less about africa lol
also I was thinking you guys were using the first second and third world model to describe economic success. Thats the only way in which I have heard it used
~~kinda could be perceived that way~~ Soviets were only eating slightly more than africans at the time so
China doesnt really take over the countries though. They take ports and a few key industries and than they have the countries government under control. I have not heard that they get involved in domestic politics or craft legislation.
well, what do you mean by crafting policy. because they get policies crafted that diverst recources towards their projects
or allow them exclusive access to resources
If you just mean like broader social policies or things like income tax then sure, that seems to be the case
I ment apart from that. they dont get involved in how the countries are run they only care for politics when it involves them. So not really taking over the country in a colonial sense and someone implied earlier countries would benefit from the US taking over. If you dont get involved in social policy those peoples lifes wont change. If anything taking the recources will worsen their lot.
Like I said prior, 1st world is allied with the 'states, 2nd world is starvin Ivan's and 3rd world is neutrals
Also the IQ thing is a bit suspect, mostly because you're not controlling for any factors other than "it ain't here"
It's not that you can't unfuck these places, it's that they're not on the right trajectory to unfucking at the moment, barring maybe Chinese colonization, which would be regrettable for other reasons
what do you mean? I dont think you will be able to get a society that you or I would call functioning with a population with an average IQ of 59
you might improve the society if you implement a strucure in which smarter people rule in these places but there will be a ceiling.
a rather low one
While I'm sure IQ varies some regionally, I really have to doubt those studies that say there are countries with sub 60 average IQs. If your society has an average 60 IQ it wouldn't just be a shithole, you would all be dead
have you looked at those people? they can barly speak
their languages are a joke
also how do you measure the average iq in those countries
and what would you do with that country?
Anything under 80 I press X to doubt
these people look like animals and animals dont just die
Conquer it.
than you have a shithole
what do you want with it?
Which can be reformed.
It's a shithole because of pre-existing structures.
i don't know about that, the usa, canada, new zealand, and australia were conquered.
So you want to replace the native population?
I think it's a combination of factors
Yes.
Why isnt it possible that the humans of some areas never needed to evolve much more than an ape? It doesnt matter what structures you introduce, these people are not able to live in a civilization.
I think China's goal in Africa, and everywhere else they are involved, is to use those countries for what we use China for.
I think it's more than just cheap labour I think the end goal is to colonise those countries with as many people as they can take
especially the poor
What do you mean, ship off poor chinese people?
they can only build so many mega cities to deal with their massive population of mostly dirt poor people
Those cities are apparently trash, too.