Message from @scaevola
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rules
enforced though violence
delegated by the people
I don't think arresting someone is wrong but it is violent
or can be
we are talking about an ideology though and saying an ideology is inherently violent usually means that it requires constant violent supression of oposition to maintain political power
that sounds bad
that would be facism
do you think a group of people using a fascistic tactic towards fascists is fascist
or makes them fascist
No. Fascism is just a critic of modernity and a rejection of both capitalism and communism as both just two sides of the same materialistic coin. Im not a fascist, but fascism is not just beating someone you dont like and fascism is not the same as national socialism.
Beating people you dont like doesnt make you a fascist, its still wrong though.
wut? no fascism is putting 'us' at the top of power depending on who 'us' is they will use different tools like capitalism just to benefit them until they don't need it anymore. A good example of this is how conservatives are all about corporations and freedom of speech but when push comes to shove they want to nationalise social media because they are getting banned and feel targeted - they are the victims
Have you ever read proto fascists?
the wiki page is really small
And not all right wingers are for nationalisation of social media companies. Im not.
for sure, but it wont stop all of your ring leaders from crying about it. More of a general trend among the grifters
Also did you just say conservatives are fascists?
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it was an example of fascism they use
yea
doesn't make them fascist
depends on how many boxes you check
Trump is doing a good job a checking as many as he can
what are the boxes?
rejection of democracy
arch-individualist
Far-right populism
attacking the media to the point when I have a convo with a conservative and send them an article from a page they don't like they will ignore it
attacking freedom of the press
attacking freedom of speech
"wut? no fascism is putting 'us' at the top of power" Isnt that what the left does? Defining "us" as the working class?
ideally 'working class' would be everyone. But normally it would be a group of people. Also we could add taking away right from minorities to that list above
oh and another good example of giving up on something when it isn't working for you would be Row V Wade for example. That one they are trying to stack the courts for. I thought they loved the consitiution
arch-individualist? Fascism isnt individualist at all. Its all about improving the position of a group/people and everyone even members of that group that stand in the way of this will dealt with in an unkind manner.
What rights has Trump taken away from minorities?
They do love the constitution which is why they want it enforced by stacking the courts with originalists who actually enforce it.
the constitution was meant to be changed
I'll give you the arch individualist one
that was bad
With amendments not by appointing liberal justices. Also you are undermining your previous point. If the constitution was ment to be changed conservatives would be acting accordingly by stacking courts.
and taking away right yes I agree. But also the stacking the courts goes back to my anti democratic statement earlier
obama was blocked by republicans and couldn't fill the seat in the house
removing special protections for transgender people is not taking away their rights. You dont have a right to special treatment just because you claim to be the oposite gender. By removing these protections they are operating by the same rules as all other people. That doesnt sound like its so terrible.