You can't exactly raise kids the same way based on how they behave, right?

Why would that change with adults. People are people

@grant It is understandable why people can feel a way, but i don't like believing people (no matter the side) are evil and have no problem doing evil if they don't get their way.

Depends on what we'd call evil

I think people like to weasel their way in and out of things/responsibility

I see it all the time

But violence on that scale, nah

Look at what grant said, i'd call that evil, now, is starting a fight/war alone evil? It all depends.

I'd like to think if push come to shove, both sides in a nuclear war would hesitate to push the button knowing that the other side is going to push the button too and wipe each other out

But I also think thats why we would put it in the hands of AI or an automatic response system

But this of course is assuming they're on equal terms, and not completely lopsided

Remember people who we consider evil didn't think they were evil. They thought they were the ones killing the evil people. I don't think they would use a nuke. But there already been show to be a clear pass to bombing the bad people.

But I also think people are equally capable of hesitating even if they know its bad people they're bombing. Not everyone of course, but someone with a conscious

That picture. Brings a whole new meaning to ‘grab her by the p-ssy’. Lol

@SteelandSouls I've help raised many kids, i like to think i treated them exactly the same while giving them the freedom to be themselves. Your standards can change from what a person is capable of doing, but i don't think it should just because of how they interact with the world. If something is okay for one person to do, it shouldn't change for another (unless its not something anyone should do).

I'd like to think that's why there's endless revenge/justice films we see where the guy at the end doesn't actually go through with the murder

You misunderstand. I'm not changing based on capability. If that was the case, I'd be throwing Trump under that same umbrella. This is changing based on who they are. So fair enough. I don't know the guy on a personal level. For all I know, he does the same type of blustering. What I do know is that this is my first encounter with the guy in a state openly hostile to my values in a party that is hostile to my values and his first message that I encounter is that? I dont' change on capability. I change on who they are because as nice as it is to interact with people the same way, you don't get the same output with every person even if you start with the same input. I put much merit into individuality for me to create an etched in stone rules of engagement. Now I may have over-arching practices that apply to everyone. Most people do. It's not feasible to give everyone the same universal code. That's why I'll cry over the death of a family member than that of a stranger.

No i got what you are saying, and yes no one can give everyone the same treatment in the world, but if you can allow Trump to say crazy things and not have a problem with them (if they aren't really hurting people), then it should be the same for anyone else (if they aren't really hurting anyone). I'm more then happy to jump on someone for trying to take away peoples Rights, making stupid jokes about that isn't bad tho. The same way i didn't have a problem with Trump trash talking RocketMan (if it was indeed a joke).

For me, Trump doesn't just get away with everything he says. I do my own finger-wagging when he gets retaliatory. There are some fights you just don't need to pick. Don't think I'm just jumping on this dude the same way the Twitter storm is. It ticks me off when the Right does it. By no means do I appreciate what he said though.

I think if a civilian said the exact same thing. I'd be more inclined to leave it alone

@grant It is true that anyone who has done evil, never thinks of themselves as evil. But they do think of their "enemy" as evil. That's what allows them to engage in whatever it takes, so its never really a good thing to do looking at people "on the other side" as evil. Unless they have actually done something evil (and that rarely happens).

@SteelandSouls It took me a while, but i had to think of something i've actually had a problem with anything trump has said (that i know about)........

I came up with when he went after video games! But i think some people explained to him that was wrong.

Good thing too. We didn't need a round 3 of that nonsense

I have more of a problem with his wife and daughter. They i've suggested awful things in the gaze of "being nice", or "good for women".

Melania has been pretty tame. Ivanka is slowly getting "woke"

Definitely doesn't do us any favors

Is she still getting worse? I thought she'd kinda backed off of late.

Out of sight; out of mind, I suppose

I forgot exactly what it was but Melaina wants or wanted to add a stop being mean in school crap. And Ivanka has been a Feminist for a long time

Which is sad....

You mean the "Be Best" thing?

No i was looking for what she said before, that seems new.

It is literally Michelle Obama's "Be Better' campaign

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/16/melania-is-now-top-trump-ivanka-should-sleep-with-one-eye-open

lol No one cares about this, but i just read it and man.... They really can't help but try to start cat fights....

Game of Thrones or the Real Housewives of DC?

I feel worst for the sad person who wrote that.

^^^^

Though I love Ivanka

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/betsy-devos-pitching-protections-students-accused-sexual-assault/story?id=59231922