The realization that men and women are so different has really changed my world view over the past couple years. I used to be hard core libertarian and learning about the differences between male and female temperaments at large really throws a wrench into the hole thing

these obligations or lack there of, motivate men and women differently

Its not a clash of ideas for me, if you are a citizen of the US, you should be able to vote.
But our government needs to stop pandering to poor interests, and we need to work on stopping that with any social program they employ (which yes, is easy to say).

how about limiting the franchise to net taxpayers

That’s like saying a boat should have holes but those holes shouldn’t leak though if Agent Smith is to be believed

Wow @amlam way to look at women just as holes.... Very sexist of you.

*laughs*

a statistcal study done in New Zealand showed that while most men paid more in than they took out, women took like $200k more than they put in

*over a lifetime

I mean women would take out a lot less if they didn’t marry the state. But as long as women vote for the option then I guess that’ll happen

Fuck I think I’m being red pilled

@Agent Smith That happens all around the world (as i'm sure you know), but that just some of the only data we have on it.

yup

don't get me wrong - this also means that men on disability/unemployment benefits also don't get to vote

@amlam Just don't go as far as Blonde, she gets annoying with it sometimes lol

I mean I’m all for tax payers getting more of a vote. You contribute more to the system you should get more of a say. Everyone is subject to the laws of the state so everyone gets a vote for that but not everyone is contributing the funds so those that do should get more say

I guess that’s what lobbying is for though

And campaign donations

Still doesn’t quite make up for it though because you have to spend extra money

You should just be entitled to more vote based on how much you pay in taxes

that would be bad actually amlam

@amlam I'm not really sure that system works well, (i hate to put it like this), but that will be making a tier citizen system.

the rich could theoretically get even richer that way

oh, and @amlam, if those holes are above the waterline, they don't leak

You would have to have a government restricted for it to work. No special favors just deciding where the money goes

honestly we need to get all money out of politics...but that is a pipe dream

When politicians spend money, there will be money in politics

I don't really have a problem with money in politics.

For me it depends where the money comes from.

I find it hard to square the idea that a welfare recipient and a guy who paid 500 grand in taxes get exactly the same vote though. I don’t know what to do about it but that seems retarded

also, most people who would be net taxpayers also think about caring for their dependents so they won't be as cold blooded as feminists think the patriarchy is

I mean it also seems stupid that people with much higher IQs don’t get more of a vote but that’s racist of me to say

Well then, Cochella is just a GOP fundraiser https://www.spin.com/2019/01/coachella-owner-philip-anschutz-political-donations/

Actually, this gets brought up every year and there's always a new crop of kids to flake out on Twitter about it.

That’s fucking hilarious

Taking hippy money and giving it to The Man!

This is why I only eat chik-fil-a

And drink Yuengling

the dude is a multi-billionaire. it's not like it has to come from ticket sales

Tru

heh i know, was just playing