Message from @amlam

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2019-01-07 04:07:36 UTC  

you don't hate the (((whites)))? what are you, a racist?

2019-01-07 05:02:38 UTC  

Voting is important, but not important enough for it to come with any real consequences, @Shadows ? A vote is intent to push your idea above all others, utilizing government force. Why is that guaranteed just because you were born? It moves beyond the purview of the personal and well into the sphere of social and political control

2019-01-07 05:06:11 UTC  

That's what it means to be a US citizen..... You are born with immutable rights, free to engage them or not.

2019-01-07 05:08:30 UTC  

It does not change because some bad outcomes happen (even tho we try to take steps to limit that).

2019-01-07 05:11:03 UTC  

If there was a way to actually get people reconnected with a culture that promoted an understanding of rights that would seemingly help. But it seems like a pipe dream at this point.

2019-01-07 05:12:41 UTC  

you have rights specifically because of 2A. Nothing is ultimately immutable, else you would still have 2A, 4A and 10A entirely intact, for starters

2019-01-07 05:13:18 UTC  

I've already said before, principles are not easy to fight for, and they never will be. But that's what our founding fathers gave us, and i won't stop fighting for that ideal.

2019-01-07 05:13:24 UTC  

The constitution merely enumerates rights. It’s not the source of rights

2019-01-07 05:13:36 UTC  

^

2019-01-07 05:17:55 UTC  

@amlam Yep, but our constitution is one of the only places in the world (if not the only) that abide by a persons human rights.

2019-01-07 05:18:55 UTC  

the constitution only means anything insofar as the public enforces the rights enumerated within. The public has not enforced these rights

2019-01-07 05:18:58 UTC  

Of course. We’re unique in that way but that doesn’t mean that the rest of the world isn’t having their innate human rights being violated

2019-01-07 05:19:40 UTC  

The constitution has certainly be encroached upon but it’s done remarkably well in holding up against the slow creep of tyranny

2019-01-07 05:19:51 UTC  

Pretty much better than anywhere or any time in history

2019-01-07 05:20:08 UTC  

How are we measuring the "slow creep of tyranny"?

2019-01-07 05:20:22 UTC  

With a ruler

2019-01-07 05:20:26 UTC  

Get it?

2019-01-07 05:20:29 UTC  

A ruler?

2019-01-07 05:20:30 UTC  

most of the constitutional encroachments have occurred within the past 100 years or so

2019-01-07 05:20:38 UTC  

Like the instrument and also the tyrant?

2019-01-07 05:20:44 UTC  

👌

2019-01-07 05:21:33 UTC  

But my point was only that while we have slowly lost some of our freedom over the past couple centuries we’ve lost a lot less than other nations that should be compared to us like the UK and Canada

2019-01-07 05:21:55 UTC  

Not relative to what you had, no

2019-01-07 05:22:11 UTC  

Canada's constitution popped up in the 70s and was basically swiss cheese. UK never had a constitution

2019-01-07 05:22:36 UTC  

from the early 1900s onward there has been a steady erosion of rights that the average American *did* have

2019-01-07 05:22:57 UTC  

Exactly. Maybe they’d be able to own butter knives if they had a constitution that protected that

2019-01-07 05:23:15 UTC  

"The constitution merely enumerates rights. It’s not the source of rights" - You, minutes ago

2019-01-07 05:24:15 UTC  

The only point that actually matters in the whole constitution is the existence of an armed populace. That has been and continues to be the only check against government overreach, and only when actually utilized

2019-01-07 05:24:20 UTC  

I’m in agreement with myself. You have rights that are constantly under threat. Our constitution enumerates them and says “government hands off” whereas other countries have constitutions that don’t go as far. They end up being violated while we hold onto more rights

2019-01-07 05:24:34 UTC  

The government hasnt been hands off though lol

2019-01-07 05:24:47 UTC  

It’s been more hands off than it otherwise would have been

2019-01-07 05:25:06 UTC  

Without the constitution as a road block we would’ve been Canada in 1777

2019-01-07 05:25:15 UTC  

Look at it this way. Canada set the bar almost at the floor, and basically nudged it slightly lower
America has set the bar high, and has been dropping year by year, in incredibly significant ways

2019-01-07 05:25:17 UTC  

@amlam Why In The World Would Anyone Need An Assault Butter Knife! We need more conman sense knife control!

2019-01-07 05:25:29 UTC  

Again, the constition doesn't do that, the populace does

2019-01-07 05:25:44 UTC  

and you're heading into an era where the public, the average American, does not care to protect their rights

2019-01-07 05:25:47 UTC  

We need an actual rapist on the Supreme Court

2019-01-07 05:25:58 UTC  

Then all of this will be solved

2019-01-07 05:26:28 UTC  

This phony rapist, Kavanaugh isn’t cutting the non-consenting mustard

2019-01-07 05:27:23 UTC  

Alrighty bois. I’m going to bed. It’s been real and it’s been fun. But it ain’t been real fun.