Message from @amlam
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you don't hate the (((whites)))? what are you, a racist?
Voting is important, but not important enough for it to come with any real consequences, @Shadows ? A vote is intent to push your idea above all others, utilizing government force. Why is that guaranteed just because you were born? It moves beyond the purview of the personal and well into the sphere of social and political control
That's what it means to be a US citizen..... You are born with immutable rights, free to engage them or not.
It does not change because some bad outcomes happen (even tho we try to take steps to limit that).
If there was a way to actually get people reconnected with a culture that promoted an understanding of rights that would seemingly help. But it seems like a pipe dream at this point.
you have rights specifically because of 2A. Nothing is ultimately immutable, else you would still have 2A, 4A and 10A entirely intact, for starters
I've already said before, principles are not easy to fight for, and they never will be. But that's what our founding fathers gave us, and i won't stop fighting for that ideal.
The constitution merely enumerates rights. It’s not the source of rights
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@amlam Yep, but our constitution is one of the only places in the world (if not the only) that abide by a persons human rights.
the constitution only means anything insofar as the public enforces the rights enumerated within. The public has not enforced these rights
Of course. We’re unique in that way but that doesn’t mean that the rest of the world isn’t having their innate human rights being violated
The constitution has certainly be encroached upon but it’s done remarkably well in holding up against the slow creep of tyranny
Pretty much better than anywhere or any time in history
How are we measuring the "slow creep of tyranny"?
With a ruler
Get it?
A ruler?
most of the constitutional encroachments have occurred within the past 100 years or so
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But my point was only that while we have slowly lost some of our freedom over the past couple centuries we’ve lost a lot less than other nations that should be compared to us like the UK and Canada
Not relative to what you had, no
Canada's constitution popped up in the 70s and was basically swiss cheese. UK never had a constitution
from the early 1900s onward there has been a steady erosion of rights that the average American *did* have
Exactly. Maybe they’d be able to own butter knives if they had a constitution that protected that
"The constitution merely enumerates rights. It’s not the source of rights" - You, minutes ago
The only point that actually matters in the whole constitution is the existence of an armed populace. That has been and continues to be the only check against government overreach, and only when actually utilized
I’m in agreement with myself. You have rights that are constantly under threat. Our constitution enumerates them and says “government hands off” whereas other countries have constitutions that don’t go as far. They end up being violated while we hold onto more rights
The government hasnt been hands off though lol
It’s been more hands off than it otherwise would have been
Without the constitution as a road block we would’ve been Canada in 1777
Look at it this way. Canada set the bar almost at the floor, and basically nudged it slightly lower
America has set the bar high, and has been dropping year by year, in incredibly significant ways
@amlam Why In The World Would Anyone Need An Assault Butter Knife! We need more conman sense knife control!
Again, the constition doesn't do that, the populace does
and you're heading into an era where the public, the average American, does not care to protect their rights
We need an actual rapist on the Supreme Court
Then all of this will be solved
This phony rapist, Kavanaugh isn’t cutting the non-consenting mustard
Alrighty bois. I’m going to bed. It’s been real and it’s been fun. But it ain’t been real fun.