Message from @Beemann
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I would honestly argue that it basically isn't an RPG anymore. The Bethesda gutting is complete
It's still an RPG.
In what sense?
I'm avoiding this argument because I doubt you'll change your mind
It's possible that you have an argument for this that I haven't heard already. Ultimately I'd say the main issue is that the category "RPG" has been so diluted that people will use it for basically anything. However if you operate on an exclusive definition, FO4 either barely counts, or doesn't count at all, depending on how granular you want to get
I just think people have nostalgia glass. One complaint is the dialog options are yes, sarcastic yes, where's Shaun and no. I just finished Fallout NV for the fifty time and the dialog options are yes, sarcastic yes based on skill points, where's Benny, and no
Except "no" is really "mean yes"
That's verifiably not true. That's also not what disqualifies it as an RPG
Further the complaint with FO4 is that it's Yes/Yes/Yes/Later
See, actually what I said. You asked my opinion, I told you, and immediately I'm told how my opinion is wrong.
No, you made a statement of fact
And I pointed out how it wasn't true
I'll go one step further
🙄
I'm done.
When you get into Caesar's camp, and talk to him, you can investigate his ideology. You can also find out he has cancer. You can kill him, force Arcade Gannon to be his doctor, fix his auto doc or leave him to his fate. You can do all of these while remaining in the same faction. You're always able to kill him
I'm sorry. Fallout 4 was complete shit. Gimme a pitchfork so I can sit around complaining too.
You're right
Thank you for enlightening me
I'm sorry, RPG categorization does not make something good/bad
It merely makes something an RPG/not an RPG
Further, something being bad doesn't make it unlikeable. There are a lot of fun "bad" movies/games/etc
I would argue Dynasty Warriors is total dogshit. I still like it anyway
I dunno. I think Fallout 4 was good and I enjoyed it. Sorry
Right but that's not what the topic was.
I also think it's an rpg
It's actually entirely moot. My avoidance of Bethesda games because of their utter lack of Quality Control and publisher-end scumminess is also irrelevant.
Okay, but what makes something an RPG? Better yet, at what point would it no longer be an RPG?
the solar roof is a loser
*laser
Pew pew
He won’t win the dem primary and certainly can’t win the general pissing off both sides with comments like this https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1107069284356894720?s=21
What an idiot
If people already own it responsibly, then why ban it entirely?
Because he wants them gone but doesn't have the guts to confiscate
I fucking hate it when politicians say things like “we don’t need to sell AR-15s to the public.” WE don’t you worthless sack of shit. Gun sellers do. And they do because we like buying them. If he were honest he’d say “We shouldn’t let people sell AR-15s anymore”
**How many of these people want to push an anti Garand agenda, considering that is actually a weapon
that was used in armed conflicts around the world last century. It is also semi automatic**
Oh wait, none of them know shit about it. They probably wouldnt recognize it as a semi automatic rifle if you showed them one, and would consider it perfectly okay despite being the same category and a higher caliber
No pistol grip or shoulder thing that goes up. Clearly not an assault weapon. Literally only capable of killing nazis, commies, and deer so it can’t harm people
It can also hurt Koreans and Vietnamese. Clearly dangerous and must be yeeted
Those are the commies I was talking about