Message from @SpanishAbbey

Discord ID: 556828908306169892


2019-03-17 13:06:29 UTC  

Ripped most of the RPG out of their RPG, retconned aspects of the setting so they could make it more like a generic cover shooter

2019-03-17 13:06:38 UTC  

🤢

2019-03-17 13:07:30 UTC  

I really liked Fallout 4

2019-03-17 13:08:22 UTC  

I would honestly argue that it basically isn't an RPG anymore. The Bethesda gutting is complete

2019-03-17 13:09:02 UTC  

It's still an RPG.

2019-03-17 13:09:08 UTC  

In what sense?

2019-03-17 13:10:06 UTC  

I'm avoiding this argument because I doubt you'll change your mind

2019-03-17 13:12:13 UTC  

It's possible that you have an argument for this that I haven't heard already. Ultimately I'd say the main issue is that the category "RPG" has been so diluted that people will use it for basically anything. However if you operate on an exclusive definition, FO4 either barely counts, or doesn't count at all, depending on how granular you want to get

2019-03-17 13:15:00 UTC  

I just think people have nostalgia glass. One complaint is the dialog options are yes, sarcastic yes, where's Shaun and no. I just finished Fallout NV for the fifty time and the dialog options are yes, sarcastic yes based on skill points, where's Benny, and no

2019-03-17 13:15:57 UTC  

Except "no" is really "mean yes"

2019-03-17 13:16:04 UTC  

That's verifiably not true. That's also not what disqualifies it as an RPG
Further the complaint with FO4 is that it's Yes/Yes/Yes/Later

2019-03-17 13:16:58 UTC  

See, actually what I said. You asked my opinion, I told you, and immediately I'm told how my opinion is wrong.

2019-03-17 13:17:09 UTC  

No, you made a statement of fact

2019-03-17 13:17:15 UTC  

And I pointed out how it wasn't true

2019-03-17 13:17:19 UTC  

I'll go one step further

2019-03-17 13:17:23 UTC  

🙄

2019-03-17 13:17:28 UTC  

I'm done.

2019-03-17 13:18:47 UTC  

When you get into Caesar's camp, and talk to him, you can investigate his ideology. You can also find out he has cancer. You can kill him, force Arcade Gannon to be his doctor, fix his auto doc or leave him to his fate. You can do all of these while remaining in the same faction. You're always able to kill him

2019-03-17 13:19:01 UTC  

I'm sorry. Fallout 4 was complete shit. Gimme a pitchfork so I can sit around complaining too.

2019-03-17 13:19:06 UTC  

You're right

2019-03-17 13:19:17 UTC  

Thank you for enlightening me

2019-03-17 13:19:26 UTC  

I'm sorry, RPG categorization does not make something good/bad

2019-03-17 13:19:37 UTC  

It merely makes something an RPG/not an RPG

2019-03-17 13:20:03 UTC  

Further, something being bad doesn't make it unlikeable. There are a lot of fun "bad" movies/games/etc

2019-03-17 13:20:32 UTC  

I would argue Dynasty Warriors is total dogshit. I still like it anyway

2019-03-17 13:21:05 UTC  

I dunno. I think Fallout 4 was good and I enjoyed it. Sorry

2019-03-17 13:21:19 UTC  

Right but that's not what the topic was.

2019-03-17 13:22:02 UTC  

I also think it's an rpg

2019-03-17 13:22:05 UTC  

It's actually entirely moot. My avoidance of Bethesda games because of their utter lack of Quality Control and publisher-end scumminess is also irrelevant.

2019-03-17 13:22:47 UTC  

Okay, but what makes something an RPG? Better yet, at what point would it no longer be an RPG?

2019-03-17 13:46:40 UTC  

the solar roof is a loser

2019-03-17 13:47:09 UTC  

*laser

2019-03-17 13:47:18 UTC  

Pew pew

2019-03-17 16:13:50 UTC  

He won’t win the dem primary and certainly can’t win the general pissing off both sides with comments like this https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1107069284356894720?s=21

2019-03-17 17:27:43 UTC  

What an idiot

2019-03-17 17:28:04 UTC  

If people already own it responsibly, then why ban it entirely?

2019-03-17 17:32:23 UTC  

Because he wants them gone but doesn't have the guts to confiscate

2019-03-17 18:09:30 UTC  

I fucking hate it when politicians say things like “we don’t need to sell AR-15s to the public.” WE don’t you worthless sack of shit. Gun sellers do. And they do because we like buying them. If he were honest he’d say “We shouldn’t let people sell AR-15s anymore”

2019-03-17 18:11:03 UTC  

**How many of these people want to push an anti Garand agenda, considering that is actually a weapon
that was used in armed conflicts around the world last century. It is also semi automatic**

2019-03-17 18:11:48 UTC  

Oh wait, none of them know shit about it. They probably wouldnt recognize it as a semi automatic rifle if you showed them one, and would consider it perfectly okay despite being the same category and a higher caliber