Message from @wolfman1911

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2019-03-22 04:56:37 UTC  

hmm sounds like what Tucker was proposing earlier this week

2019-03-22 04:56:45 UTC  

that colleges should co-sign the loans

2019-03-22 04:58:55 UTC  

I think they've been working on this for a while. I agree though that college should be the ones handing out the loans. It will incentivize them to make sure students learn valuble things

2019-03-22 04:59:40 UTC  

also once the government stops being involved they should allow people to declare bankruptcy on student loans

2019-03-22 05:07:50 UTC  

I don't know if declaring bankruptcy on student loans is good idea or not.
When you do it in other instances, the banks still hold/get some kind of asset. They can't really take anything from you for your education.

2019-03-22 05:09:30 UTC  

thats only true for secured loans.

2019-03-22 05:09:46 UTC  

any unsecured loans or debts would leave the lender high and dry

2019-03-22 05:10:04 UTC  

this is why bankruptcy leaves a 7 year black mark on your credit report

2019-03-22 05:10:36 UTC  

you can get out of student loans, contrary to popular belief. you need to show hardship.

2019-03-22 05:14:18 UTC  

Yes, but the banks aren't giving unsecured loans out. They get payed from the government, which i agree with grant should be less involved. But that means it will stop giving out so many loads without some kind of value upfront (normally) from the individual.

2019-03-22 05:15:06 UTC  

that is only true for federal loans, not private loans.

2019-03-22 05:15:34 UTC  

federal loans are around 5% interest, and privates are between 6-12.5%ish.

2019-03-22 05:15:49 UTC  

obviously one is subsidized and one is not

2019-03-22 05:18:15 UTC  

most of student loan debt is held by those without a degree. they attended college and dropped out.

2019-03-22 05:20:05 UTC  

get the gov out and this will restrict the demand and force schools to lower prices. we do not need ppl who are unable to finish college , to go to college.

2019-03-22 05:21:13 UTC  

all that does is give ppl, who would be better suited for trades, an increased amount of debt

2019-03-22 05:22:04 UTC  

If the government gets out of colleges, how many private loans are banks going to be handing out to people to attempt to get whatever degree they want.

2019-03-22 05:22:18 UTC  

they wont increase the lending

2019-03-22 05:22:23 UTC  

because its more risky

2019-03-22 05:23:10 UTC  

banks also ask (currently) for the degree your pursuing and the name of the college. they weigh the risk more

2019-03-22 05:23:26 UTC  

I suspect that if the government gets out of the student loan business, then the primary way of going to college will be through employers that offer to pay for your degree.

2019-03-22 05:23:38 UTC  

^

2019-03-22 05:23:44 UTC  

Though that's just me making assumptions out of my ass.

2019-03-22 05:23:50 UTC  

and that is offered by many diff employers currently

2019-03-22 05:24:07 UTC  

especially ones are desperate for employees

2019-03-22 05:24:36 UTC  

and again, the price will drop

2019-03-22 05:24:58 UTC  

without a guarantee, their current prices would cause a large decrease in enrollment

2019-03-22 05:25:16 UTC  

the various grievence studies would be cut back

2019-03-22 05:25:17 UTC  

It will be an incentive for some employers to do, i'm not sure how high % that could possibly be tho.

2019-03-22 05:25:32 UTC  

it currently happens

2019-03-22 05:26:02 UTC  

student loan reimbursment is one of the many things negotiated in total compensation.

2019-03-22 05:27:04 UTC  

Yes, its already a thing.

2019-03-22 12:07:46 UTC  

It also means that getting useless degrees puts you in massive debt and it creates a disincentive to get those degrees.

2019-03-22 12:08:11 UTC  

Gender studies out the window now

2019-03-22 12:08:31 UTC  

No more worthless grievance studies

2019-03-22 12:09:31 UTC  

I think we should find a way to kick all the commie professors out for spreading seditious ideology.

2019-03-22 12:10:57 UTC  

Kick out all the elites here first, the root of the issue

2019-03-22 12:11:09 UTC  

I had a wall of text about that earlier, I think it got buried though

2019-03-22 12:11:59 UTC  

Dang. I guess I missed it

2019-03-22 12:13:00 UTC  

I found it, I'll DM it to you lol