Message from @Clive

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2019-08-18 18:01:06 UTC  

@Legalize a commenter on that article:

"No, they are conservatives. Conservativism is a disease of the mind. It should be listed in the DSMIV as a form of psychosis. This has been demonstrated time and time again since nixon and the Democrats compliance with this insanity has only made these psychotics bolder and bolder with each criminal administration. nixon, reagan, the two bushes and now trump--each administration a criminal organization and each incrementally worse, criminal and psychotic. For the sake of this country and the world the republican party needs to be destroyed and the term conservative needs to become synonymous with nazi fascism."

To which I replied:

"The mentality illustrated in this post is far sicker than anything you are complaining about. Reactionary conservatism is a natural reluctance to change. Progressive radicalism is a natural eagerness for change. These are inborn personality traits, part of natural human diversity, and are balancing forces that, in a healthy society, work to adapt the culture incrementally to current and future need without lurching off a precipice. Your delusional belief that we can run a society with no conservatives is akin to believing we can navigate a cliffside racetrack at full throttle with cut brake lines. I.e. suicidal. You are living in an echo chamber. The fact that our cultural discourse is off the rails and unnecessarily antagonistic is not the fault solely of conservatives, nor is it their burden alone to bridge the gap. Everyone needs to grow up."

2019-08-18 18:02:13 UTC  

Which I think is true for both sides. I see seeds of radicalization and hatred in myself as I go deeper into right wing thought. But it was the same when I went deep into the Left earlier in life.

2019-08-18 18:03:16 UTC  

I'm trying to resist the darkness and see which parts of the light each side can see more clearly.

2019-08-18 18:03:45 UTC  

It's not easy. But this discourse is so twisted it makes it nearly impossible.

2019-08-18 18:35:50 UTC  

I'm sure they gave you a polite well thought out response

2019-08-18 20:28:15 UTC  

@grant I haven't checked yet.

2019-08-18 20:51:05 UTC  

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/proud-boys-chat-logs-premeditate-rally-violence-in-leaked-chats_n_5ce1e231e4b00e035b928683
¿You know how they got started right?
Six guys got beaten at TRUMP rallies. One was crippled for life.
So ya. They're planning for violence... Just like France and Britian planned for invasion by Germany.

Huh. Best analogy I've come up with to date.

2019-08-18 21:25:01 UTC  

Man, look at all those evil white nationalists

2019-08-18 21:25:41 UTC  

Like that Asian guy right in the front

2019-08-18 22:03:20 UTC  

That brown guy next to him is just crying for a white ethno-state

2019-08-18 22:05:43 UTC  

The proud boys are all most entirely Cuban

2019-08-18 22:07:35 UTC  

Except I already know that the intersectionalist response is just to wave it away as "internalized racism", so showing them a picture of a multicultural gathering of Proud Boys doesn't phase them in their convictions.

2019-08-18 22:10:27 UTC  

It's all so tiresome

2019-08-18 22:14:27 UTC  

^^^

2019-08-18 22:16:11 UTC  

Well it’s never going to end

2019-08-18 22:37:16 UTC  

intersectionality is never wrong. it is the one true religion

2019-08-18 22:51:23 UTC  

yikes

2019-08-18 22:52:30 UTC  

And there is no path to redemption for those branded heretics

2019-08-19 00:04:28 UTC  

I'll build the fire, someone grab some matches and hey, let's let Leg tie me to the stake. Just so he knows I'm not mad. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

2019-08-19 01:34:45 UTC  

Say what you want about Mandy, but he is more balls to the wall committed to his ideals than most other people to the point where he writes his own legal bill!
I have respect for you.

2019-08-19 01:34:55 UTC  
2019-08-19 02:51:40 UTC  

Poor Hillary.

2019-08-19 02:52:02 UTC  

Is someone finally coming to save that ass?

2019-08-19 03:09:25 UTC  

Should just put the ass down.

2019-08-19 03:29:59 UTC  

🙏🏿 for dat ass

2019-08-19 03:30:51 UTC  

I bet there's a million miles of red tape between that ass and liberation

2019-08-19 03:32:09 UTC  

If we suddenly got a new lake here in texas, with a bonus island and a wild donkey, everyone with a boat in fifty miles would be there the next day chasing that thing down

2019-08-19 03:33:05 UTC  

So...dat ass would be up for grabs?

2019-08-19 03:38:38 UTC  

It's probably not legal to catch a donkey in a cast net, but I could do it.

2019-08-19 03:39:39 UTC  

I bet dog catchers could make their job a lot easier and safer if they used nets

2019-08-19 04:06:54 UTC  

In thailand we still use blow darts since guns were prohibited... To catch dogs that is

2019-08-19 04:57:41 UTC  

here they try to use a rope on a stick to get them by the neck

2019-08-19 06:11:02 UTC  

@Legalize
*"What are you even yammering about talkative Tory?"*
***WELL.*** If you're gonna be like *THAT* about it, I'll pick someone *else* to light my fire.
@Putz, ¿you interested in burning a heretic or two? I mean, you aren't my biggest fan and all...

2019-08-19 11:37:41 UTC  

For Trump, appeals to white fears about race may be a tougher sell in 2020: Reuters/Ipsos poll https://reut.rs/2KWEf1u

2019-08-19 11:37:52 UTC  

This article is insane

2019-08-19 11:38:36 UTC  

It deliberately mischaracterizes us as racists again.

2019-08-19 16:32:19 UTC  

@C1PHER
Ya, Snopes done fucked up good picking a fight with BaBee... You'd think they learned *the first time,* with the washing machine incident...

2019-08-19 16:57:28 UTC  

Ya, I'm not ok with that *"no releif"* story; One man's tax dollars are exactly the same as anothers, and while I find anti-semites to be *slightly* higher on the food chain than "gun" (race) control "experts," a tax payer is a tax payer is a tax payer. Period.
Even Bob took that position.