Message from @Beemann
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Also as little as fire extinguishers matter in this discussion, are they really mandatory in location in the US? I know plenty of people that do not have fire extinguishers.
I have never heard of this supposed law requiring them in residences, nor could I find it when I looked, but Mr Mandatory seems adamant on the point.
Btw I agree @Just for youtube [NB1] about subsidizing citizens who carry. I'd allow them to write off periodic safety and marksmanship courses on their taxes.
Also first aid/responder training and that kind of thing.
I've never heard of such a requirement for non-businesses
I would suggest that perhaps a citation is needed on the legal requirement for fire extinguishers
Nuh uh bro, the burden of proof is on you to show that the law *doesn't* exist.
:^)
Snark aside, perhaps @Mandatory Carry would like to cite the legislation mandating fire extinguisher ownership
@Beemann
Already did;
https://www.nfpa.org/Public-Education/Campaigns/Fire-Sprinkler-Initiative/Legislation-and-adoptions/Sprinkler-requirements
I can't go through all 5Ø states and list thier code section, and is *STILL* irrelevant, no matter how uncephalized moves the goal posts;
*"Change **MY** mind"*
At least @DJ_Anuz has brought *some* argument (unfortunately for him, that argument was already at least 3 years old).
@Just for youtube [NB1]
*"That some of your home's didn't only means you were violating a fire code and getting away with it like 6Ø-ish% of the rest of the country myself included at one point)."*
*"Asked And Answered. Twice now."*
*"The point about a tax break for those that carry"*
Was what *I* said... About 3 years ago...
*"instead of a tax increase"*
¿Who said that? Oh right, someone who's not even here...
I know what I said, and strawmanning me isn't helpful.
Nor is reversing the goal posts. All I've seen so far is a bunch of "I don't like it" ism.
... Well **HELL, *I DONT "LIKE" IT EITHER.*** I also don't "like" seat belts and fire extinguishers, but they ARE real things.
BTW, how kind of you to to claim my idea as your own, @uncephalized. 😠😠😠😠
This source shows that only like 3 regions have mandated it, and only in new homes
¿Did you read it?
Yes
"States/regions *requiring* fire sprinklers in *new*, one- and two-family homes: CA, MD, Washington, D.C. "
"States *prohibiting* statewide and new, local adoptions of fire sprinkler requirements in new, one- and two-family homes: AK, AL, AZ, CT, DE, GA, HI, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, MA, MI, MN, MO, NH, NJ, NY, NC, ND, OH, PA, SC, TX, UT, VA, WV, WI "
I doubt you're going to sway people here by citing California laws as well
Not about to cite THAT state. I'd rather die first.
Tell me ONE state that does not have a residential fire extinguisher code.
According to your source, every state in the second quote prohibits sprinkler requirements
Prohibiting sprinklers, *THAT'S* a new one.
In fact there's multiple limitations here
1) it's for new homes, and is not retroactive
2) it's only enforced by 2 states and a city
3) one of those states is commiefornia
Prohibits requirements. Don't skim
*Tell me ONE state that does not have a residential fire extinguisher code.*
Jesus, ¿do I **REALLY** have to point it out?
So are we counting prohibition of a requirement as a code? That's shifting goalposts considerably
No, please, @Beemann, prove you're as smart as I think you are...
¿Is a sprinkler a fire extinguisher?
Damn guys, I bread crumbed the SHIT out of that trail...
And STILL, nothing to even generally change my mind...
No
That's a code for new homes built
A sprinkler is meant to extinguish fires
And if you're not going to count it, you're still on the hook for a source
Like cars after 1965 are required to have seatbelts
I do not need extinguishers in my home
Cars *built* after 1965
@Just for youtube [NB1]
Great, ¿what magical state is this?
You're trying to do this 4D chess shit but it's not working. You're just looking foolish
California
Theres no sprinklers in my home
I have those red fire extinguishers but I dont know of any law that requires I own them
Or get them checked every year
Like there is at my place of employment
Their extinguishers are checked annually
By the fire dept
I haven't read everything yall said cause I'm at work but it sounds like only 2 states even require sprinklers in new homes?
And cali is one
But that's NEW homes
That's the building code