Message from @Beemann

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2019-06-21 13:11:56 UTC  

I guess at least I'm modern politics I haven't seen much from conservatives trying to re-enact restrictions. Rather the fight has just been a pushback to the "progress" liberals have been pushing.

2019-06-21 13:16:52 UTC  

They love their Handmaid's Tale references as of late.

2019-06-21 13:18:21 UTC  

I guess the problem with the modern progressives is that they keep putting human edge cases up on a pedestal, so there's a natural tendency for people to find more and more ways to be placed upon it

2019-06-21 13:19:16 UTC  

TBH I haven't even watched handmaid's tale.

Generally speaking, if you have to look to fiction for your representation of the results of your opponents arguments, you're probably bad at arguing.

2019-06-21 13:20:06 UTC  

Whereas if you state that the nuclear family is your societal paragon, it's hard to find ways to one-up that

2019-06-21 13:20:34 UTC  

What do you mean by one up that?

2019-06-21 13:24:05 UTC  

If your position is "X is bad, and you should do your best to deviate from it" people will always try to find new ways to deviate and get bonus points. Versus "X is good and you should do your best not to deviate" makes it such that you can't really get more X-er than X.
I hope that makes sense

2019-06-21 13:25:59 UTC  

Yeah. That's what I thought you were saying, just wanted to be sure

2019-06-21 13:45:11 UTC  

Now I'm not entirely sure that the progs have gone so far as to say that heterosexuals are bad, giving rise to the "LGBTQIAA+" mess, but the logic seems like it would match

2019-06-21 13:51:29 UTC  

I don't think they need to say heterosexuals are bad. They just need to say bad things are acceptable.

2019-06-21 13:51:44 UTC  

Pedophilia, supporting the likes of Desmond

2019-06-21 13:51:57 UTC  

Puberty blockers.

2019-06-21 13:52:20 UTC  

There will always be some new sexual deviation that they need to "liberate"

2019-06-21 14:04:13 UTC  

VIV LA LIBERTAD

2019-06-21 14:04:21 UTC  

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2019-06-21 15:50:58 UTC  

@DJ_Anuz
*"When dealing with modern progressives, it is more the rule than the exception that the slippery slope argument is not a fallacy. ... Change my mind."*
I could *try,* but I'd have to start with the worst sin of all- I'd have to **LIE** to you, and worse I'd have to tell you a lie I already know you know is a lie.
@C1PHER
*"They love their Handmaid's Tale references as of late."*
ĀæAre they **STILL** on that shit argument? Take that worlds, replace *'Christian'* with *'Muslim,'* and you have at least a half-dozen real world countries ***RIGHT NOW.*** Not some hypothetical future, right now, today- Up to and including execution of lesbians (an otherwise historical outlier). šŸ˜ šŸ˜¤šŸ¤¬šŸ˜”

2019-06-21 15:52:03 UTC  

It's not so much the lie that pisses me off... It's the fact that they think we're too stupid to know it's a lie that does. šŸ˜¤šŸ˜”šŸ˜ šŸ¤¬šŸ¤¬

2019-06-21 15:55:25 UTC  

I don't think they think it's untrue, thus it wouldn't be a lie

2019-06-21 15:55:47 UTC  

I think they've worked themselves into a frenzy over an ebil Christian patriarchy that won't happen

2019-06-21 16:04:36 UTC  

Willful ignorance of simply verifiable facts is also lying.
And that's not even the extremism... The extremism comes at **"When you don't verify a claim before presenting it as factual based on your supposed professional credentials, you're lying"* (coughcoughShannonWATTScough)...

2019-06-21 16:27:01 UTC  

We're talking about speculation. There aren't simple verifiable facts

2019-06-21 16:27:04 UTC  

Omission is no sin!

2019-06-21 16:27:14 UTC  

Blasphemer!

2019-06-21 17:19:46 UTC  

@Beemann
*"(coughcoughShannonWATTScough)"*
@TheCompanyMan
It is when you already know better...
Because you got caught.

2019-06-21 18:00:37 UTC  

No getting caught.

2019-06-21 18:00:53 UTC  

Just people getting shhhhmmmaaarrtt.

2019-06-21 18:03:39 UTC  

What about her?

2019-06-21 18:20:20 UTC  

Slippery slopes go both directions. That's why both sides fear them because the truth is compromise is a temporary solution

2019-06-21 18:51:32 UTC  

@TheCompanyMan
She's not that smart. In fact, she's not as smart as her degree supposedly says

2019-06-21 19:00:17 UTC  

Well boston college isn't even the best economics school in boston. If that tells you anything

2019-06-21 19:05:56 UTC  

... Huh. I thought her degree was in advertising.
That does explain a few things. But not enough.

2019-06-21 19:07:25 UTC  

Oops she went to boston university, the best economics program in boston

2019-06-21 19:07:42 UTC  

Ok.

2019-06-21 19:08:26 UTC  

She graduatedĀ cum laudeĀ from Boston University'sĀ College of Arts and SciencesĀ in 2011, majoring inĀ international relationsĀ and economics

2019-06-21 19:08:36 UTC  

Per wikipedia

2019-06-21 19:09:03 UTC  

It was an econ minor

2019-06-21 19:09:40 UTC  

I minored in pseudocode

2019-06-21 19:09:58 UTC  

BigDaddyTraivs taught me

2019-06-21 19:10:06 UTC  

Probably took marxist econ and a dash of Keynesian.

2019-06-21 19:10:12 UTC  

Haha that's right

2019-06-21 19:10:47 UTC  

UofDiscord is a super reputable school